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Old 06-25-2019, 10:38 AM
 
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I think people forget or never knew that one of the reasons we are keeping children separate from adults was due to lack of family facilities to keep them together led to them living in “general population” along with hordes of filthy child molesters who couldn’t keep their hands off the children. Go back several years and refresh yourself on stories of the high numbers of sexual assault that were being reported on at the time. Something HAD to be done. It’s certainly not ideal, and somehow we have managed to screw it up and separate families far longer than we should. But it was a move made to solve a problem that has just created more problems.

Folks, options are limited for ANY country faced with such a crisis. Solutions take time and cooperation.
And then there is this for the whiners about kids being separated from their parents.

"Because the injunction that halted the policy last June allowed for children to continue to be separated in cases where their parents have criminal histories or communicable diseases, or if the children are accompanied by non-parent relatives. The injunction also permits family separation when a parent is deemed a danger to the child".

There are child trafficers among these phony parents also. They are bringing kids with them that are not theirs to gain sympathy and entry into our country. From what I understand they are doing DNA tests now to stop this problem.
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Old 06-25-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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the 1997 Flores settlement doesn't come into play when parents are under criminal charges


parents are arrested at the border and criminally charged with illegal entry. Due to these criminal charges, protocol does not allow the child to be kept with the parent because the child is not criminally prosecuted, and you can NOT release children out into the jungle of cities etc ALONE
Exactly, and we don't even jail American kids with their law breaking parents. Why should these migrant families be treated differently?
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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the 1997 Flores settlement doesn't come into play when parents are under criminal charges


parents are arrested at the border and criminally charged with illegal entry. Due to these criminal charges, protocol does not allow the child to be kept with the parent because the child is not criminally prosecuted, and you can NOT release children out into the jungle of cities etc ALONE
I don't understand why this concept is so difficult to grasp for some folks. It's what happens when ANYONE is arrested for breaking the law, they don't throw the kids in jail with the parents.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I don't understand why this concept is so difficult to grasp for some folks. It's what happens when ANYONE is arrested for breaking the law, they don't throw the kids in jail with the parents.
No, the Trump administration just locks these poor kids in dog kennels with no adequate healthcare, food, showers, sanitary conditions, etc...

This president is a cruel wannabe dictator, and I can’t wait until he’s gone!
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:32 PM
 
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No, the Trump administration just locks these poor kids in dog kennels with no adequate healthcare, food, showers, sanitary conditions, etc...

This president is a cruel wannabe dictator, and I can’t wait until he’s gone!
You realize the Obama administration was sued for the same thing. Was he a cruel wannabe dictator, too?









****for those with low intelligence, this is not excusing anything currently. Just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the frothing left (not all left, just the nutjobs)
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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And then there is this for the whiners about kids being separated from their parents.

"Because the injunction that halted the policy last June allowed for children to continue to be separated in cases where their parents have criminal histories or communicable diseases, or if the children are accompanied by non-parent relatives. The injunction also permits family separation when a parent is deemed a danger to the child".

There are child trafficers among these phony parents also. They are bringing kids with them that are not theirs to gain sympathy and entry into our country. From what I understand they are doing DNA tests now to stop this problem.

DNA tests reveal 30% of suspected fraudulent migrant families were unrelated
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You realize the Obama administration was sued for the same thing. Was he a cruel wannabe dictator, too?









****for those with low intelligence, this is not excusing anything currently. Just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the frothing left (not all left, just the nutjobs)
And your orange god isn’t a “nut job”? Wake up!
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:40 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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You realize the Obama administration was sued for the same thing. Was he a cruel wannabe dictator, too?









****for those with low intelligence, this is not excusing anything currently. Just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the frothing left (not all left, just the nutjobs)
I was going to say the exact same thing you said.
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:40 PM
 
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And your orange god isn’t a “nut job”? Wake up!
I didn’t vote for Trump.

Is this your way of admitting the hypocrisy of your post or do you think Obama was a “cruel wannabe dictator” too?
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Old 06-25-2019, 02:45 PM
 
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No, the Trump administration just locks these poor kids in dog kennels with no adequate healthcare, food, showers, sanitary conditions, etc...

This president is a cruel wannabe dictator, and I can’t wait until he’s gone!
What a crock! Dog kennels? Now you lefties have gone from calling them concentration camps to dog kennels? lol! Once again, it was Obama that put kids in cages first. He didn't have to deal with 20,000 marching up to our border all at once and having to feed, clothe, provide healthcare for that many all at once. Why haven't the Democrats given Trump the funding he has requested to deal with this crisis?
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