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Old 07-06-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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Met a South Carolina Republican who voted for Trump and even defended him for the first year and a half........he is a no to Trump now. What does that mean?.......ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

 
Old 07-06-2019, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Voting against legalizing marijuana is considered conservative,oppressed and backward?
Have you ever worked heavy machinery around a pot head or anything for that matter?
Seems like it's the other way around. Your way of thinking tells the story.
This country is really going to pot.
Oklahoma taxpayers couldn't afford to continue the cost of giving people prison terms for years who use marijuana, so it had to be decriminalized or legalized in the case of medical marijuana. Rural Oklahoma was notorious for throwing people in prison over marijuana. And it sure didn't help matters to be non-white. Legal medical marijuana will bring much needed jobs to rural Oklahoma and broaden the tax base. The sky isn't falling because of it.

We have to live with alcohol being legal and coming to work drunk is quick grounds for firing in many workplaces. Same with coming to work high.

It was crazy backward how some small, backward rural Oklahoma counties didn't legalize liquor by the drink until 2018 when they were forced to do so, or else not even beer could be legally served. Since 2018, Oklahoma's reformed alcohol laws are finally no longer stuck in the 1900s.

Like in rural north Michigan, I'm sure support for President Trump in all of rural Oklahoma is quite alive and well, probably more so.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Republicans won the Governorship by only 33,000 votes and Floridians cast nearly 9 Million votes in that race.
That is hardly a indicator for the rest of the country.
It just says Florida is unpredictable.
I think it suggests Trump is in for another close count with the popular vote. But plenty of time left for things to change. The presidential election is for the Democrats to lose if they can't come out making big deals out of issues close to the hearts of voters. Reparations isn't one of those issues.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I've been in rural northern Michigan for about 48 hours on vacation and saw 2 Trump yard signs, 2 MAGA hats, and one Trump shirt.

I am a little surprised to be honest. Then I met a guy on a boat who was from populated southeast Michigan who was comparing Trump to Hitler.

The rural Midwest came out huge for Trump in 2020, it appears they will again.
I'm guessing that the climate in northern Michigan is Trump friendly enough that ardent fans feel more comfortable showing outward support.

But I would say it's relatively meaningless, unless it goes against what you would expect. For example, seeing every other house with a Trump sign in a swingy area would be noteworthy.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Republicans won the Governorship by only 33,000 votes and Floridians cast nearly 9 Million votes in that race.
That is hardly a indicator for the rest of the country.
It just says Florida is unpredictable.
https://www.270towin.com/states/Florida
"Influxes of Cubans, retirees, service workers to the theme park economy booming near Orlando and other groups have resulted in a state much more diversified – both economically and politically – than many of its southern brethren. As a result, although leaning slightly Republican, Florida is today seen as perhaps the ultimate battleground state, its population a microcosm of the country as a whole. This reputation was enhanced by the closeness of the 2000 election, where it took a month of legal wrangling to decide the winner. In 2012, Florida was the only state decided by less than 1%, with Barack Obama besting Mitt Romney 50.0% to 49.1%. 2016 was almost as close, with Donald Trump edging Hillary Clinton by 1.2%. Except for 1992, when it sided with incumbent George Bush, the state has voted with the winner in every presidential election since 1964."
 
Old 07-06-2019, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Boston
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people no longer vote for someone but rather against someone. Meaningless to speculate until there are only 2 candidates endorsed by their respective Party.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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Hard to say who will come out for Trump. A lot can happen between now and next November esp. if economy starts rattling and shaking.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Republicans won the Governorship by only 33,000 votes and Floridians cast nearly 9 Million votes in that race.
That is hardly a indicator for the rest of the country.
It just says Florida is unpredictable.
When 99% of the precincts are in and the last batch moved the total by 123 votes, that 33,000 looks a lot larger than you try to make it.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Rural Illinois, even northern Illinois is very much so MAGA country, regardless of how Chicago tilts the political look of the whole state. It doesn't surprise me MI and WI are both this way too. MI matters the most though, as does IA.
 
Old 07-06-2019, 11:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
I've been in rural northern Michigan for about 48 hours on vacation and saw 2 Trump yard signs, 2 MAGA hats, and one Trump shirt.

I am a little surprised to be honest. Then I met a guy on a boat who was from populated southeast Michigan who was comparing Trump to Hitler.

The rural Midwest came out huge for Trump in 2020, it appears they will again.

Wow! 5 people in the entire state showing support...…….
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