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Old Today, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Keep in mind what I said.

Asylum seekers, if they have a Right Claim or Not.

Democrats are against putting them in Cages and removing them from their children, while being vetted.


If they dont have a claim.. I suppose the system actually functions by turning them back.
IF they then turn to Illegal immigration #8, Democrats are not OK by that.
But we havenít been sending them back. This is the fundamental flaw of our current system. We are so overwhelmed with claims that an asylum hearing is 2-3 years away. So we historically have allowed them in on an honor system - a system that has been abused and broken for years, leading to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants permanently residing here.

We try to solve that problem by going the Australia route and having them wait it out at immigration centers, and then progressives melt down over THAT solution. We seem powerless in our own country to solve this problem.
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Old Today, 07:17 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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How many are accepted.....

Here is an actual answer.

https://immigrationforum.org/article...sylum-process/
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Old Today, 07:20 AM
 
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Keep in mind what I said.

Asylum seekers, if they have a Right Claim or Not.

Democrats are against putting them in Cages and removing them from their children, while being vetted.
Then why won't Democrats pass the spending bills required to fund the construction, staffing, etc., of the facilities needed to house the 'supposed' asylee families until their application is vetted and adjudicated?
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Old Today, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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How many are accepted.....

Here is an actual answer.

https://immigrationforum.org/article...sylum-process/
Thanks for the facts.

The acceptance rate is 28%, according to your data.

That doesnít necessarily mean that the remaining 72% percent of the cases were without merit. It's much more complicated than that. Some have not been adjudicated or are on the docket.
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Old Today, 07:25 AM
 
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There are a few types of immigration into the US now.. please list if there are more.

1. Green Card lottery.
- 50.000 person from all over the world, chosen a bit on luck, but mostly on profession.

2. Work Visa
- Sponsored by a company. Huge hassle for most companies and costly.

3. Legal immigration
- From most other 1st world countries, that either have a good education or the means to create a company/workers.

4. Asylum
- People from war torn countries, religious persecution, drug wars in South America, slavery,

5. Marriage to US citizen or Family reunion
- Actual legal immigrant applies for their close family members to join them in the US, when they have the means to support them. Or marries a US citizen.

6. Work Visa over stays
- People getting a work visa, overstays on purpose, disappears into the crowd or marries trump.

7. Anchor babies
- People from other countries, traveling on some sort of Visa, knowingly pregnant to make sure their kids becomes a US Citizen.

8. Illegal immigration
- People that would not fit in any of the above, that crosses the border purposely avoiding point of entries, by walking, smuggled, mostly poor, trying to earn money in a stable country, and the people hired both by legal and illegally by companies to do work.



From what I understand.. most of the problems are #6, 7, 8.
I hope most Americans can accept the other points?


Most of the Noise around immigration now for Democrats are #4.
People seeking actual asylum from South America, are entering official Points of entry, which they are required to and end up in cages, separating them from their children.

And is the arguments now:

1)
There is a willingly misunderstanding now, trying to mix up Asylum seekers #4 with actual Illegal immigration #8, and blaming Democrats just want to let everybody in?

or

2)
And Democrats are arguing that Asylum seekers #4, should be treated like people, and not locked up in cages while they are being actually vetted, returned or allowed in?



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Anchor babies as you call natural born citizens cannot sponsor a parent until they are an adult and can prove they can and will support said parent. Giving birth in this country does not allow the parent giving birth any immigration advantage until their child is an adult.
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Old Today, 07:26 AM
 
Location: New York
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The sole purpose of immigration now is white replacement. That so many are either ignorant or willfully blind to this fact is sad. Whites built a great country once, then they gave it away...
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Old Today, 08:01 AM
 
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Addressing post #1:

2. If it's too costly and a hassle then fix it.

3. Nope, most legal immigrants are not from first world countries. Mexicans and other Latinos enjoy the highest quotas by far.

4. The only viable reason on your asylum list is persecution. None of the others apply.

6. There is no evidence that Trump's wife overstayed her visa.

7. Anchor babies are those born from illegal aliens not from visa users.

8. No one has the right to earn money in our country by entering illegally and no employer has the right to hire them either.

Many asylum seekers are not seeking it through a legal port of entry but entering illegally instead and then claiming it. A detainment facility isn't a cage per se. Melodramatics much? The separation of families ended a year ago and most of those were separated for good reasons but have since been reunited so what's your point of bringing it up again?

It is the Democrats who can't seem to separate legal immigrants from illegal aliens and an asylum seeker who doesn't go to a port of entry but enters illegally instead are still illegal aliens. If the Democrats don'g want to let everyone in then why to they fight border security with a wall, are for sanctuary cities, cry about internal enforcement and won't change our asylum policies?

Since when aren't asylum seekers treated as people? Oh, here we go with the cages again! What are we supposed to do with them while they are vetted, returned or allowed in?
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Old Today, 08:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Northman83 View Post
Keep in mind what I said.

Asylum seekers, if they have a Right Claim or Not.

Democrats are against putting them in Cages and removing them from their children, while being vetted.


If they dont have a claim.. I suppose the system actually functions by turning them back.
IF they then turn to Illegal immigration #8, Democrats are not OK by that.
They aren't cages they are detainment facilities. Stop the melodramatics! It is against the law to keep children with their parents who have broken the law while they are being arraigned.

How many times do I have to repeat that a liberal judge ended the family separations a year ago before you and yours stop repeating it? Most of those families that were separated have been reunited.
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Old Today, 10:28 AM
 
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4. Asylum
- People from war torn countries, religious persecution, drug wars in South America, slavery,
you made that up.







Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:
  • Race
  • Religion
  • Nationality
  • Membership in a particular social group
  • Political opinion
https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/r...-asylum/asylum
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Old Today, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Originally Posted by Northman83 View Post
Keep in mind what I said.

Asylum seekers, if they have a Right Claim or Not.

Democrats are against putting them in Cages and removing them from their children, while being vetted.


If they dont have a claim.. I suppose the system actually functions by turning them back.
IF they then turn to Illegal immigration #8, Democrats are not OK by that.
They are removed from their children if they can not prove those are their children. There is a real problem with trafficking. A large percentage of children are NOT with their parents. They are removed if the parents have committed a crime. Yes, just like american citizens. They are removed if the parents have a communicable disease.

They are detained, not put in cages, but detention centers. Would you just have them cross the border and go where ever with who ever?
Apparently democrats were against turning them back at the ports of entry, so they must let them in to file a claim. You assumption is wrong.

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On July 12, 2017, the American Immigration Council, along with the Center for Constitutional Rights and Latham and Watkins, LLP, filed a class action lawsuit challenging Customs and Border Protectionís (CBP) unlawful practice of turning back asylum seekers who present themselves at ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border.
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The Trump Administration announced rules that migrants coming from Central America who have passed through other countries en route to the U.S. border will no longer be able to make a claim for asylum beginning today. Immigration attorneys and experts say the rule is a violation of domestic and international asylum laws.
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