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It's people like you who don't have knowledge of what is really going on in this world. You take what is force fed to you by the media and run with it. I'd expect this type of thinking from people in the 80's when the internet was slim to none and everyone had out-dated encyclopedias. Get with the times and educate yourself before spouting garbage like this.
Excellent post and very, very appropriate response to the OP's ridiculous assertions!
Your understanding of Jimmy Carters works since he has left the office is limited. He is the only President to have actually done more out of office. His mission of peace is a simple one.... even if it doesnt please the current administration. Perhaps they need to invest in peaceful means of resolutions vs. trumped up we need to find WMD's so therefore we can invade a sovereign nation.
Since Carter left the office he has received over 40 awards, including the Nobel Peace Price and a grammy in case you get that in trivia pursuit. he has done countless humanitarian missions for health and peace issues.
The list is extensive.. you might check it out it certainlyt has nothing to do with Obama, but rather someone that will be remembered as one of the greatest humanitarians in history.
Your understanding of Jimmy Carters works since he has left the office is limited. He is the only President to have actually done more out of office. His mission of peace is a simple one.... even if it doesnt please the current administration. Perhaps they need to invest in peaceful means of resolutions vs. trumped up we need to find WMD's so therefore we can invade a sovereign nation.
Since Carter left the office he has received over 40 awards, including the Nobel Peace Price and a grammy in case you get that in trivia pursuit. he has done countless humanitarian missions for health and peace issues.
The list is extensive.. you might check it out it certainlyt has nothing to do with Obama, but rather someone that will be remembered as one of the greatest humanitarians in history.
Carter's never met a two-bit dictator he didn't like. That's his post-presidential contribution. And as far as his Nobel Peace prize and his other awards, the Romans had a saying for that kind of thing: Assinus assinum fricat--one jackass scratches another's back.
Jimmy Carter meeting with HAMAS, a terrorist group - is this a preview of the Obama foreign policy?!
We all know Carter is endorsing Obama. We also know Carter is the new Jimmy Carter, a disaster no one knows anything about and yet people flock to his Communist/Marxist ideology. Spectrum[/url]
Excuse me, I've just wrote you off. You are demonizing a man with more goodness in his little finger than you will ever muster in your entire lifetime. The fact he had a troubled presidency doesn't speak ill of his intentions or character.
One of the false expectations the US has in dealing with groups like Hamas is that there is some kind of "end game" that will be acceptable, including the acceptance of Israel as a Jewish state. Hamas has shown no inclination to accept this prerequisite for constructive discussions, so I don't see an "end game" that doesn't include the elimination of Israel.
I just don't think there is an "end game", just ongoing and altered tensions in the area. Any agreements in negotiations with Hamas would only serve to establish a new and improved strategic position for future "pressure".
I'd just encourage them to intermittently talk, with no expectations of any resolution. Hopefully, as time passes, the Palestinians try to build something constructive while they are "negotiating" instead of just playing for strategic advantage.
Oh, and to stay on topic, I expect a President Obama to be similar to Carter in terms of foreign policy and approaches.
To be fair, I want to provide external links concerning the statement about Hamas not accepting Israel:
Hamas combines Palestinian nationalism with Islamic fundamentalism. Its founding charter commits the group to the destruction of Israel, the replacement of the PA with an Islamist state on the West Bank and Gaza, and to raising "the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." Its leaders have called suicide attacks the "F-16" of the Palestinian people. Hamas believes "peace talks will do no good," Rantisi said in April 2004. "We do not believe we can live with the enemy."
In January 2006, the Islamic Resistance Movement, HAMAS, won control of the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC). The international community refused to accept the HAMAS-led government because it did not recognize Israel, would not renounce violence, and refused to honor previous peace agreements between Israel and the PA.
It does not matter if Hamas recognizes or accepts Israel or not, it is the duly elected legitimate democratic government. Israel does not accept Hamas on the basis that it is a terrorist organization, yet it did in fact at one time support and help fund it when it was used to splinter the PLO under Arafat. So thus the Fatah organization is being supported and helped through funding to now splinter and delegitimize the Hamas government. This cycle has already repeated itself once and is likely to do so again.
As Hamas and the Fatah move closer together in a more unified position, Israel still insist on dealing with Abbas which most Palestinians do not even consider as their leader or representative. Israel continues to attempt to fracture the tightening coalition between Hamas and Fatah which whether we like it or not is their democratically elected government.
So for every rocket attack by factions of Hamas, Israel builds yet another illegal settlement or incursion into the Gaza. While we continue to denounce Hamas for its actions, and rightly so, we then allow Israel to use collective punishment on an entire population and we see no problems with this.
If the United States is going to continue to use tax payer money to hand out welfare checks to Israel, Egypt, and even to a lesser extent the PA, then either they need to negotiate some form of lasting peace agreement or kiss Uncle Sam's money good bye. If they wish to continue receiving their welfare rolls then it is time that the UN peace keeping forces intervene, even if Israel objects. Our foreign policy towards this situation is madness and has done more to hamper peace than promote it.
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Hamas is the duly elected legal government of the Palestinian people. That is reason enough to meet with them and encourage them to be a part of the solution and not a part of the problem.
It does not matter if Hamas recognizes or accepts Israel or not, it is the duly elected legitimate democratic government.
You cannot effectively negotiate with a party that doesn't recognize your right to exist. Any agreements are only capitulation providing benefit for their intransigence, and encouraging continuing this behavior.
Seeking closure as a solution is not a middle east option, you only negotiate for better posture in the next battle. This isn't just issues involving Israel, it also involves many of the Arab nations with each other, and factions within their countries. It is just part of the culture of the area.
As I stated in my earlier posting, discussions can be "encouraged" but if you are looking for constructive closure, with longstanding benefits to both sides, you will continue to be frustrated.
Even the elimination of Israel will not diffuse the tensions in the area, including the long term threats to the world.
BTW - In my view McCain has an excellent handle on this process, Clinton seems to understand it too, while Obama seems to believe that this can be solved, like Carter.
Is meeting with a terror organization that has murdered and claimed responsibility for thousands of suicide bombings, assasinations, repression of free speech, brain washing of children, anti-Semetic hate people no different than the KKK, an organization with blood on their hands.... a good idea?
How are Hamas suicide bombings any different than Israel using the latest U.S technology to bomb homes in the illegally-occupied territories?
Both groups have blood on their hands, Israel isn't innocent they are the cause of the terrorism because of their illegal occupation. Hamas and other groups won't stop while the occupation and continued illegal settlements continue.
Groups like Hamas shoot random, bottle-rockets (Qassam rockets) into Israel. but it is no different than Israel killing with the latest U.S-made technology.
Israel DOESN'T WANT PEACE. They want to STALL, which is what they've been doing for years. This allows them to build more illegal settlements and apartheit roads in the West Bank.
If anyone knew the true situation, and not what the U.S media fed them, they would know that Israel is the cause of this terrorism and situation.
Do you really expect third world, dirt-poor Palestinians to respect people who bomb, bulldoze and steal their land? Of course they are going to fight back any way they can and that includes suicide bombing. The OP needs to get an education.
Carter should be arrested and jailed for being a traitor.
He has no right doing this and should have the respect that he is undermining our country and making us look weak.
He is a disaster and needs to be handcuffed and locked up so he wont embarrass our country any longer.
The worst President in US History and he still thinks he is the President.
Wonder what meds he is on? The guy needs help.
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