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Old 09-14-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by don1945 View Post
Yep, he's a real peach, isn't he. Obama handed him a great economy and not much debt. Two years later, both are heading into the toilet.

So much for "Well, he is rich, so he must be smart" mentality.
Obama only added 9 Trillion and when he ran out of money he just printed more...
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Old 09-14-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
Obama inherited a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit from Bush. By the time Obama left office, he had managed to reduce the deficit by almost 2/3rds to around 500 billion.


Trumps steps up the plate promises several times:


In February 2016 Trump said he could start paying off the national debt "so easily."


In March 2016, Trump said he could cut trillions of dollars in spending by eliminating “waste, fraud, and abuse.”


In April 2016, Trump said that he was confident that he could “get rid of” the entire multi-trillion-dollar debt “fairly quickly.”


July 2016 Trump said “we’ll start paying off that debt like water.”


Now the national debt is back over 1 Trillion and still climbing.


“Since 1992, there have been 11 months in which the deficit topped $200 billion. Seven of those have happened under Trump.” The Washington Post
Politicians from both parties routinely drag out this canard. What it really means is "I don't really have a solution to the problem". I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear it.
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Old 09-14-2019, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
The House of Representatives controls the budget.

The House is controlled by democrats.
Dems have only been in charge of the House for 8 months. Don't forget that Repugs own the Senate and WH.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Deficits come from one reason, and one reason only: spending and revenue are out of balance. Anyone saying otherwise is not being honest. It can be balanced by either cutting spending, or increasing revenue, or both.

You give the GOP your vote, so you are a part of the problem.
the tax cuts did increase revenue

the problem is that the congress-critters want to spend way more than what is coming in..and that is from both parties

we NEED a balanced budget amendment...one that projects what the revenue will be, and then ONLY spends that much

by FY2026 (6 years from now, as fy20 starts in 16 days) medicare/Medicaid budget are projected to be hitting nearly 2 trillion between the both....that is more than half of the revenue we take in.....and no one person in DC is trying to fix that....the dems are looking to INCREASE that spending by triple
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:19 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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the economy is on fire and a perfect time to rehab the nation Obama left in tatters after doing his best to suffocate it.
Under Obama the unemployment rate fell from 9.9% to 4.7% (a decrease of 5.2%)
Under Trump the unemployment rate fell from 4.1% to 3.7% (a decrease of 0.4%)
https://www.thebalance.com/unemploym...y-year-3305506
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Under Obama the black unemployment rate fell from 16.1% to 6.7% (a decrease of 9.4%)
Under Trump the black unemployment rate fell from 6.7% to 5.5% (a decrease of 1.2%)
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006

Under Obama the stock market rose from 6,547 to 19,762 (a increase of 13,215 points.)
Under the stock market rose from 19,762 to 25,444 (a increase of 5,682 points.)
https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow...-last-10-years

In 2016 under Obama our trade deficit was $501 billion
In 2018 under Trump our trade deficit was $621 billion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ce-since-2000/

Under Obama our deficits were reduced by 2/3.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ased-two-thir/

Obama was the smallest government spender since Dwight D. Eisenhower.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung.../#7a5edc7325cf


Can you explain how Obama hurt the economy?

And in what economic matters has Trump outperformed Obama?
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:21 PM
 
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Trump does not create the budget. He approves it, but doesn't create it.

Do your part and vote in Congressmen who will cut the deficit. I wonder what Trump what do with that?
Trump pushed for and approved a massive tax cut for rich that is the main contributor to our rising deficit.

Exact same thing like under G. W. Bush.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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And why aren't Republicans on fire about this?
Because the right-wing establishment and mass media is not on fire about this. The sheep are not worried unless they are told to worry.
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump pushed for and approved a massive tax cut for rich that is the main contributor to our rising deficit.

Exact same thing like under G. W. Bush.
trumps tax plan cut for everyone, and cut the brackets down from 6 to 3.....that is NOT WHAT PASSED

the tax cut that was passed was NOT trumps plan....


and the bush tax cuts, and even this one have INCREASED revenues...the deficit is coming from increased social spending
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:35 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Obama only added 9 Trillion and when he ran out of money he just printed more...
Obama's actual policies added about $2.2 trillion dollars to our national debt during his time in office.

Obama added $2.7 trillion dollars to our national debt from 2013-2022 by extending 82% of the Bush tax cuts.
Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush

And Obama added $831 billion dollars to our national debt with his 2009 stimulus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009

The other $7 trillion dollars added to our debt during Obama's time in office was caused by the Bush administrations Iraq/Afghanistan wars, GW Bush's tax cuts that took place when Obama first entered office, increased spending by GW Bush (Bush increased spending by 48.6%), and federal subsidies started by GW Bush, ex.ex.

Economic Downturn and Legacy of Bush Policies Continue to Drive Large Deficits | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Report: Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost almost $5 trillion so far
https://www.mercatus.org/publication...-george-w-bush
Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold on the GOP?
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Old 09-14-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by ditchoc View Post
Obama inherited a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit from Bush. By the time Obama left office, he had managed to reduce the deficit by almost 2/3rds to around 500 billion.


Trumps steps up the plate promises several times:


In February 2016 Trump said he could start paying off the national debt "so easily."


In March 2016, Trump said he could cut trillions of dollars in spending by eliminating “waste, fraud, and abuse.”


In April 2016, Trump said that he was confident that he could “get rid of” the entire multi-trillion-dollar debt “fairly quickly.”


July 2016 Trump said “we’ll start paying off that debt like water.”


Now the national debt is back over 1 Trillion and still climbing.


“Since 1992, there have been 11 months in which the deficit topped $200 billion. Seven of those have happened under Trump.” The Washington Post
President'd don't pass budgets, Congress does. All of our worse deficits have been with a Democrat Congress including now.
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