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Old 09-17-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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I read that Iran is the only country that has the technology to strike the facility with those types of rockets. I don’t want us to attack Iran but it does look like they helped with the attack .
Why would the US need to attack Iran for that instead of Saudi Arabia? They've got an Air Force.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I read that Iran is the only country that has the technology to strike the facility with those types of rockets. I don’t want us to attack Iran but it does look like they helped with the attack .
Even the Yemeni rebels are helped by Iran, so Iran is involved no matter what. They say some of the attacks were launched from Iraqi soil, so obviously the US troops in Iraq has been instructed to focus elsewhere, or nowhere at all.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why would the US need to attack Iran for that instead of Saudi Arabia? They've got an Air Force.
No, we don't need to. They did not attack us
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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Can’t understand how Trump talks big one day then walks it back the next. See now why our allies don’t trust this administration? They do this quite a bit. We have sold the Arabs tons of weapons and fighters. Why are we getting involved? Let the Arabs fight their own war. We have enough on our plate. We supposedly don’t need their oil, what’s the problem?
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Can’t understand how Trump talks big one day then walks it back the next. See now why our allies don’t trust this administration? They do this quite a bit. We have sold the Arabs tons of weapons and fighters. Why are we getting involved? Let the Arabs fight their own war. We have enough on our plate. We supposedly don’t need their oil, what’s the problem?
There is a brilliant strategy behind this. It's called "trolling the libs".
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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According to Trump we are all but independent of foreign oil now. So why is the price of gas sky rocketing?
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I have no idea what will happen was fuel prices over the next several days, but prices dropped 5 cents at most of the stations I passed tonight.
similar situation in Maryland. i was surprised.
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Old 09-17-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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This all could have been avoided if Trump didn't tear up the Iran deal and ratchet up the sanctions, he was talking tough last year along with Tom Cotton, did they think Iran was going to roll over.
That "deal" not only was worthless, it was DANGEROUS. That's why Obama failed to make it a treaty. The Senate rejected it with a strong bi-partisan majority. The American people rejected it, even though Obama LIED about its provisions.
That "deal" had critical flaws regarding when and where to inspect, sunset clauses which would allow the regime to enrich to the point of breakout, allow the regime to develop the most advanced centrifuges, and continue to test ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear war heads.
In addition it contained absolutely no restriction on Iranian expansion and hegemony. In fact, after the deal was signed the regime used the hundreds of $billions that it got as a result of the deal to increase its nefarious activities throughout the region, from Iraq to Syria to Lebanon to Yemen..
Here is a recommendation on how to correct some of those fatal flaws:
https://www.cotton.senate.gov/files/...Fact_Sheet.pdf

The economic pressure that President Trump has put on Iran left the regime with two options: agree to negotiations or launch military attacks. It has chosen the latter. From attacking and hijacking tankers in the Gulf to shooting down a US drone to this attack on SA. They will continue to do so, and even intensify the attacks, until they are stopped. There need to be no invasion or war. What is needed is a pinpoint destruction of the regime's refinery and oil production facilities. That will put an end to their economy. Without an economy they will be unable to support any significant military action.

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The "deal" was NOT a treaty ratified by Congress!

Mr. Pen and phone did it on his own accord, and the "deal" was WORTHLESS toward the interests of the United States!
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:22 AM
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This all could have been avoided if Trump didn't tear up the Iran deal and ratchet up the sanctions, he was talking tough last year along with Tom Cotton, did they think Iran was going to roll over.

This is exactly what Iran wants, to brainwash people like you. Under the umbrella of the Iran deal Iran was freely spending the billions received from Obama in the Middle East weaponizing and supporting proxies. They have been on a tear in the middle east, but since it hasn't really impacted the 'West' you didn't hear about this.


Iran was backed in a corner before the Iran deal, and Obama gave the terrorist mullahs a way out. Well done, Obama and Kerry. Well done.
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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What kinds of drones were these? I thought they weren't the advanced type that carried missiles, but were more kamikaze drones that destroyed themselves in the attack. Then again, the drones did fly pretty far inland into Saudi Arabia so the range was pretty good on those.
I also wonder what model of drones were used in this attack =
https://www.google.ca/search?q=milit...ih=546#imgrc=_
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:53 AM
 
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Default Just the facts ma'am

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This. All three seem to always be connected when it concerns terrorist attacks lately. Just saying, but it's like one provides the places and people that will die, one provides the attackers and the other provides the finance, in no particular order, while the media just so happens to be owned and controlled by corporations that have a large financial interest in war.



During the first Gulf war I took a lunch in the executive dining room of Texaco which operates and leases oil wells in the desert there. At each table was an Arab in white gown with head dress along with the Texaco staff. I was told that as soon as it looked like an invasion, the wealthy sent their first born males to the US. For protection. And presumably everyone else to Switzerland.


Kuwait and Saudi Arabia paid around USD$32 billion of the US's $60 billion cost. The Arabs have a tradition of hiring mercenaries to fight their wars. Looks like the `Disrupt-or' - in - Chief is turning things around.
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