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If you do this, in the first week a child will die in a crash because their parent took them to a bar and had them blow into the breathalyzer to get home. You can't legislate away bad behavior unless you go full blown totalitarian government.
Have you seen the "communism" thread ? I'm thinking many would be okay with it.
Starting with you. What is a fair price to pay per vehicle ? Will this be needed to operate , motorcycles, boats, planes, snowmobiles, mini bikes, ATV's etc ?
There is no price on an innocent person’s life, and yes any of those things in bold should also be required to have a system in place as well.
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Originally Posted by Robert_J
If you do this, in the first week a child will die in a crash because their parent took them to a bar and had them blow into the breathalyzer to get home. You can't legislate away bad behavior unless you go full blown totalitarian government.
First of all, children aren’t allowed to hang out in bars, and most people would likely call the police if they saw a kid sitting in a car all night in the parking lot of a bar. If you have the money to waste on getting wasted, you have enough to call for a ride.
There is no price on an innocent person’s life, and yes any of those things in bold should also be required to have a system in place as well.
First of all, children aren’t allowed to hang out in bars, and most people would likely call the police if they saw a kid sitting in a car all night in the parking lot of a bar. If you have the money to waste on getting wasted, you have enough to call for a ride.
okay, since 4000 teens die annually due to texting and driving, when will you be handing in your cell phone ?
Solutions have been presented over and over again on many firearms topic threads here. Do some research, and read them yourself.
Throughout this thread you've been asked many questions and have been presented with facts yet you ignore them all.
That was on the other thread. There's been a couple posters that have provided solutions and I've had reasonable discussions with them. Other people just keep shouting, "but ma guns!"
That was on the other thread. There's been a couple posters that have provided solutions and I've had reasonable discussions with them. Other people just keep shouting, "but ma guns!"
Solutions to what ? Can't just say "gun violence" ....there are way to many specifics for that.
The root causes for each category needs to be addressed.
Inner city violence. Why does one shoot another over a bag of potato chips ?
School shootings. Why does the weird kid, the one everyone shuns and is a huge red flag , feel the need to kill his school mates
Mass shootings. Why does ones hatred of race or religion or the fact they were fired or the company **** won't sleep with them cause them to try and kill as many of their peers as they can ?
There are thousands of firearms laws on the books. There are many restrictions for certain types of firearms. All this for a right provided to us by the Constitution. Are there that many laws and restrictions for the 1A ?
1. Speaking can't kill someone, although hate speech can lead to violence performed by weak individuals, sometimes with guns.
2. A person practicing their own religion can't itself kill someone.
3. Practicing legitimate journalism cannot kill someone.
4. Peaceful assembly cannot kill someone.
5. Shooting a gun in the wrong direction or manner can kill someone. It's a deadly weapon, and all people are asking for is reasonable safeguards. Nobody's trying to stop you from going to the shooting range or keeping something in your home that can protect you from an intruder.
1. Speaking can't kill someone, although hate speech can lead to violence performed by weak individuals, sometimes with guns.
2. A person practicing their own religion can't itself kill someone.
3. Practicing legitimate journalism cannot kill someone.
4. Peaceful assembly cannot kill someone.
5. Shooting a gun in the wrong direction or manner can kill someone. It's a deadly weapon, and all people are asking for is reasonable safeguards. Nobody's trying to stop you from going to the shooting range or keeping something in your home that can protect you from an intruder.
Concerning 1-4, what was that charge on L&O, the episode where Claire got her motorcycle jacket? Reckless endangerment?
One could probably find a way for 1-3 and maybe even 4 to kill someone. After all, bullying with mean, spiteful words, such as using the Net, has probably made a few people commit suicide. As far as legitimate journalism, what is that? If you can't charge them in court for what they say on the news, is it legitimate even if their inaccuracies make someone public enemy #1?
After all, remember William Hearst and the Spanish-American War.
1. Speaking can't kill someone, although hate speech can lead to violence performed by weak individuals, sometimes with guns.
2. A person practicing their own religion can't itself kill someone.
3. Practicing legitimate journalism cannot kill someone.
4. Peaceful assembly cannot kill someone.
5. Shooting a gun in the wrong direction or manner can kill someone. It's a deadly weapon, and all people are asking for is reasonable safeguards.Nobody's trying to stop you from going to the shooting range or keeping something in your home that can protect you from an intruder.
There are protocols in place. I've had to be fingerprinted, background checked, and every time I make a new purchase another background check, my handguns are registered, and to keep my CPL I have to take a class every 5 years.
What more would you like me to do ?
Also, in other threads , you've said semi auto rifles should not be allowed.
So which is it ? So far you are playing by the anti gun hand book. "All we want is reasonable restrictions" and " no one needs a semi auto rifle" both miles apart.
It may be a poor way at looking at things, that such events could have benefits, but if a Beslan ever happens in this country (that's about half and half in the LE community where one side says it is coming and the other side says, "Beslan? What's that?")............................
............................we will probably be "better prepared" for it.
There is no price on an innocent person’s life, and yes any of those things in bold should also be required to have a system in place as well.
First of all, children aren’t allowed to hang out in bars, and most people would likely call the police if they saw a kid sitting in a car all night in the parking lot of a bar. If you have the money to waste on getting wasted, you have enough to call for a ride.
Maybe in the PRK but in freedom Wisconsin it's AOK!!!!
Can children be in a bar with their parents?
Yes. Persons under age 21 may be on licensed premises, if they are with their parents, guardians, or spouses of legal drinking age; but this is at the discretion of the licensee.
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