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Old 10-11-2019, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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It was clear in the late 1960s & early 1970s that the US intervention in the French neocolonial war in Indochina was a disaster for the US - economically, militarily, politically. We could have destroyed the entire nation, both North & South; but that didn't seem like a viable option. & so we hung on & bled, & hoped for better days. They never arrived.

The tough question was What to do about the US in Vietnam? Fonda chose to intervene, & call for a stop. She didn't poison anyone, she didn't kill anyone - she lent her presence as a movie star to rallies & speeches. She did what she could, & TMK, she continues to do so, on her current issues.

It was brave of her to act; if the US career military & spooks & political leadership had shown as much courage in the late 1940s, we might never have bankrolled & then replaced the French in their attempt to reclaim their pre-WWII glory in Indochina. The World might have become a better place; it's hard to know.
It was not her protesting that was the problem, it was the way she went about it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Looks were never her problem. Politics on the other hand.

Yes well, I was as you can see, referring to the old hag comment.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Not bought and paid for pseudo science. I was a science major undergrad, btw. So there goes you're stereotypical dribble.
NASA is pseudo science, the organization that can send a mission to Jupiter. Where do you get your science.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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NASA is pseudo science, the organization that can send a mission to Jupiter. Where do you get your science.
NASA and NOAA were caught, and admitted manipulating historical temperature data.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It was clear in the late 1960s & early 1970s that the US intervention in the French neocolonial war in Indochina was a disaster for the US - economically, militarily, politically. We could have destroyed the entire nation, both North & South; but that didn't seem like a viable option. & so we hung on & bled, & hoped for better days. They never arrived.

The tough question was What to do about the US in Vietnam? Fonda chose to intervene, & call for a stop. She didn't poison anyone, she didn't kill anyone - she lent her presence as a movie star to rallies & speeches. She did what she could, & TMK, she continues to do so, on her current issues.

It was brave of her to act; if the US career military & spooks & political leadership had shown as much courage in the late 1940s, we might never have bankrolled & then replaced the French in their attempt to reclaim their pre-WWII glory in Indochina. The World might have become a better place; it's hard to know.
I always find the long lasting hatred for Fonda misplaced, there were better people to direct their displeasure towards like McNamara and all those politicians and presidents that went along. I am a Vietnam Vet and have no issue with her protests except for her photo op in North Vietnam, very poor choice to say the least. Yet here we have a thread about her arrest at a climate change protest, she is a lightning rod.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It was not her protesting that was the problem, it was the way she went about it.
Oh yes, she has no excuse. Emily Post wrote an entire book on the proper etiquette of protesting. Everyone knows that it's your manners that count the most. Not whether you were right or not.

(Edited to add - I had friends who went to federal prison for protesting. History shows we were right.)
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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NASA and NOAA were caught, and admitted manipulating historical temperature data.
Post the link.


So who do you use for science that claims there is no AGW, or is that just your opinion.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Interesting timing since "Arab Trump" is sending US Troops and vast resources to Saudi Arabia today to protect the perps of 9/11.

The OP needs to update - Hanoi are the good guys today. China bad. Corruption Good.
In case you didn't notice, there is another thread on the Kurds and Saudi.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Hanoi Jane Arrested


Breaking news from 1969?

The bad news is, they let her out again.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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You should have the Energy and Will and Power to Do the Fight for all of us. She has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain for this climate change...we have fires in both No and So Calif. right now.
That’s California’s problem. Something or other is always burning there.
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