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Old 12-28-2019, 08:43 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Low level jobs with only 62% participation rate, wages not rising with housing costs whatsoever (look at California homeless problem), and Trump riding the good economy by artificially keeping rates low (with a negative inverse yield curve) started by Obama bringing us out of the Great Depression. YUGE deficit as well! China can play the long game as they have a President for life, unlike the short term American way. Of course...a divided country with the President only supporting less than half of it and calling the other half the devil?!
That is winning to Trump country.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes but my good man, Colorado Rambler,
You forget that the cult only cares about making America white again, inserting conservative judges, and pissing off the libz.

They dont care that theyre paying more, or that other Americans are losing jobs because of tRumps trade war.
Tariffs don't work positively for Americans in the long. To say Trump supporters dont care and support everything Trump does is juvenile.

You forget that the democrats are the party of the klan is. We know who owned the slaves. We know who Jim Crow is. The filthy democrats have always been the party of bigotry.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:58 PM
 
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Tariffs don't work positively for Americans in the long. To say Trump supporters dont care and support everything Trump does is juvenile.

You forget that the democrats are the party of the klan is. We know who owned the slaves. We know who Jim Crow is. The filthy democrats have always been the party of bigotry.
Hasn't been true since the mid 1960s.

The racist DEMs, aka Dixiecrats, started switching to the GOP after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

Nixon's "Southern Strategy" relied on angry white southern men to get elected and re-elected. GOP strategist Lee Atwater actually voiced the outline of the plan, and you can read about it here.

DEMs are no longer the party of bigotry, it has been the GOP for decades. Further, the GOP has been aided and abetted by the Southern Baptist Convention, aka white baptists, who were always the mother church of the KKK. These evangelicals are mostly racist (and misogynistic) and are the main Trump fan base and base of the GOP.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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One thing I find odd. Tariffs are a tax, no more, no less. They are a tax on specific products produced outside this nation and brought here. It seems as those afflicted with TDS have a real issue with these taxes. Yet these very same people insist on high taxes on US corporations that produce produce products in this nation, and employ American workers. They throw a virtual temper tantrum when taxes on these businesses are reduced to the point that they are competitive with other industrialized countries.

Can someone explain why taxing imported products is such a terrible thing-while taxing products produced by Americans is such a good thing? I don't speak liberal.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Tariffs don't work positively for Americans in the long. To say Trump supporters dont care and support everything Trump does is juvenile.

You forget that the democrats are the party of the klan is. We know who owned the slaves. We know who Jim Crow is. The filthy democrats have always been the party of bigotry.
It’s December 2019, not December 1960.
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Hasn't been true since the mid 1960s.

The racist DEMs, aka Dixiecrats, started switching to the GOP after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964.
This is not true. Only 1 person Strom Thurmond switched parties. The rest of the dixiecrats remained loyal democrats for the next 20 years or the ones who replaced them were democrats.

I'd really like you to name any other dixiecrat besides Strom Thurmond. Give me some names. I want to finally hear another name besides Strom Thurmond. It should be easy since there were so many. So far I haven't heard anyone else who was a dixiecrat who switched. Not one.


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Nixon's "Southern Strategy" relied on angry white southern men to get elected and re-elected. GOP strategist Lee Atwater actually voiced the outline of the plan, and you can read about it here..
This is incorrect. Nixons southern strategy was to go into cities which is where the ex Northerners moved to. The cities were not filled with life long democrats like the rural areas were. Nixon knew that the South was democrat country since they had a long, long history of it. On top of that Nixon rarely campaigned in the South because he knew it was a waste of time for a repubican to do it since it was firmly democrat country.

"Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd."


" He supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. He was an avid champion of the desegregation of public schools. The progressive columnist Tom Wicker wrote in the New York Times, “There’s no doubt about it — the Nixon administration accomplished more in 1970 to desegregate Southern school systems than had been done in the 16 previous years or probably since. There’s no doubt either that it was Richard Nixon personally who conceived and led the administration’s desegregation effort.”


The Southern Congress didn't become republican until the 1990s. The bigoted democrats were the party of jim Crow. Every single Jim Crow law was passed by a democratic legislature. We know that because once again the fact that the democrats controlled the southern Congress until the 1990s tells us that.

We know for a fact that republicans voted in a higher percentage in each and every one of the 4 Civil Rights Act.

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DEMs are no longer the party of bigotry, it has been the GOP for decades. Further, the GOP has been aided and abetted by the Southern Baptist Convention, aka white baptists, who were always the mother church of the KKK. These evangelicals are mostly racist (and misogynistic) and are the main Trump fan base and base of the GOP.
Yet you cannot name one policy that the Republicans voted in or supported that is bigoted. Not one.
The democrats were the party of the klan from day one. Good ole Andrew Jackson was where the bigoted democrats started and it continues today.

Senator Byrd (D) probably served the longest in Congress and he recruited an entire klan chapter.

The bigot George Wallace would have won the democratic nomination for president in 1972 if he wasn't shot 2/3 of the way through. He never campaigned in California yet he barely lost the popular vote. Humphrey had 25.5, McGovern 25.3, and Wallace had 23.5 of the popular vote.

Do the republicans also have bigots? Of course they do but the difference is the republicans don't support them and the republicans speak against them.

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Old 12-28-2019, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It’s December 2019, not December 1960.
Yea my bad. It's not like the left is saying things like white people shouldn't be in charge of the democratic party. Or back racist groups like La Raza or support illegals which hurts the employment rates of minority Americans
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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One thing I find odd. Tariffs are a tax, no more, no less. They are a tax on specific products produced outside this nation and brought here. It seems as those afflicted with TDS have a real issue with these taxes. Yet these very same people insist on high taxes on US corporations that produce produce products in this nation, and employ American workers. They throw a virtual temper tantrum when taxes on these businesses are reduced to the point that they are competitive with other industrialized countries.

Can someone explain why taxing imported products is such a terrible thing-while taxing products produced by Americans is such a good thing? I don't speak liberal.
Because their handlers tell them what to say and how to think.
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Old 12-29-2019, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Actually they are at the same rate (124.6) as last year according to your chart, looks like seasonal changes to me.

And if you look at the 5 year, they have been going up since trump was elected.

So far the import prices are still worse since trump.
Only Trump wasn't elected five years ago and those import prices were on the rise way back in early 2016.

What is note worthy (in addition to import prices during the Obama years) is the fact that even with a booming economy, the cost of imports is decreasing.
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