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Old 05-05-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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No evidence of an innocent man being executed....
It does appear, pretty clearly IMHO, that Tricky D is nothing more than a Troll.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Every single one of them were on their way to the gallows. How is that not every bit as compelling? How does it not suggest that prior to DNA evidence, hundreds of innocent people were put to death? Logic! Was our justice system less fallible before?

And if you want an example, how about Wayne Felker? Ellis Wayne Felker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And NONE of them got there...

The DNA in Felkers case was inconclusive,meaning it would NOT have proven him innocent.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Earth
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But they couldn't have found him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, either.
I do believe that's the law in the US.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:52 AM
 
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And NONE of them got there...

The DNA in Felkers case was inconclusive,meaning it would NOT have proven him innocent.
At the very least it would have called for a new trial.

That's the problem with the death penalty. It's impossible to truly have a new trial.

And seriously: Are you honestly suggesting that, even though over 100 people were released after DNA evidence came under consideration, there has never been a person wrongfully executed? Not even one? Give me a break.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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IMO, all those on death row should have the ability to appeal based on relevant DNA evidence - if any.

If there is DNA evidence, and it was not introduced at trial, then allow said evidence to be tested. If the evidence does not match, IMO, this would be grounds for re-trial.

If it matches, then rights for further appeals are waived, and a date certain, within 90 days, is set for the inmates execution.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:00 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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At the very least it would have called for a new trial.

That's the problem with the death penalty. It's impossible to truly have a new trial.

And seriously: Are you honestly suggesting that, even though over 100 people were released after DNA evidence came under consideration, there has never been a person wrongfully executed? Not even one? Give me a break.
No that was not shown by your link....
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The results were ruled as inconclusive; however this finding alone may have been enough to grant a new trial, if not exoneration and release.
What I am stating is there is has NEVER been a case proven where an innocent man(or woman,lets not be sexist) was executed.

And the reason we are even discussing this is another poster stating there WAS such a case(or cases)...

That is all.

It also has little to do with Gitmo terrorists.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:02 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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From a quick read the interesting thing I found was in one particular case DNA evidence actually supported the findings that the man was indeed guilty.

Now THAT would suck for the guy....
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:57 AM
 
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Very well. You've convinced me. Your logic is flawless.
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Those aren't races either.

Really.
They are Caucasians, aren't they?
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Old 05-05-2008, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I believe the answer is zero...no-one executed in the USA in modern history has been proven to be innocent.
The Innocence Project - Home
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