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Originally Posted by GoldenPineTree
Yeah I remember when the media was saying Miami's hospitals were overflowing with Covid19 patients and we were the next Wuhan, I dislocated my shoulder and went to the ER. It was EMPTY.
I think part of it is fear mongering. States typically have few ICU beds open as there typically is no need. The media latches on to this and partisan mud flies.
Look below:
As calgirlinnc points out, there isn't even a spike in ICU beds from BEFORE the pandemic in North Dakota.
They can increase the ICU beds if necessary.
Here's the thing.....if health experts in states say they are seeing a spike in positive cases, deniers say -- oh that doesn't matter it is hospitalization.
Then when state health experts say -- we are seeing a spike in hospitalization, then deniers claim it is the media fear mongering.
I don't live in fear....but it is important to be aware that that some 35 states are seeing significant positive cases and some of those states are seeing their hospital resources once again under pressure.
North Dakota running out of icu beds. The hospitals are overwhelmed. It's predicted this will happen nationally. Fauci says if people wore masks and took the proper measures things like this wouldn't happen.
If Trump has anything to do with it all the states he visits will have a surge, that rally in Sanford Florida was yet another super spreader event and he's off to other states. Very few masks, people packed together and he's urging them to get out more. Very reckless for a president with the virus surging in over half of the states.
I think part of it is fear mongering. States typically have few ICU beds open as there typically is no need. The media latches on to this and partisan mud flies.
Look below:
As calgirlinnc points out, there isn't even a spike in ICU beds from BEFORE the pandemic in North Dakota.
They can increase the ICU beds if necessary.
She cherry picked that link...
There are multiple local media reporting that they have less then 20 ICU beds state wide. Unfortunately they are all behind paywalls as far as everything but the headlines.
Furthermore, the brunt of the new wave appears to be greatest in the central part of the state so it hasn't hit the Red River Valley (Fargo/Grand Forks) as hard as it's going to in the immediate future.
Not on the east coast, at least. The two big hospitals are averaging 15 to 20 patients combined in my county( 400K pop.), or at least were back in September when things jumped a bit when schools went back and the colleges re opened. There are cases being reported, just the vast majority of them aren't serious enough to warrant a hospital stay. I'm not sure where all these diagnosed cases are coming from, but deaths continue to be on the downward trend. Maybe one or two per week, but maybe 20 per day state wide in Pa. We have a large elderly population all across Pa so that explains much of it.
The places experiencing a surge now were locked down and didn't have exposure to the virus early on. They got applauded for doing the right thing, now its obvious that they did exactly the wrong thing and are now going through what every other state and city went through and will go through. The virus will make its rounds and everybody will get it. Masks are mostly useless( just read the science on why, for God's sake, people) and don't parrot what a moron like Joe Biden says. 6 feet social distancing is pointless. You breathe, you get it. You most likely won't get too sick, unless you're very old and have other serious health conditions.
And its funny that state that did have the virus blindside them( NY, NJ, PA, Mass.) early on are now being applauded for controlling the pandemic. Newsflash.... people got it and are now either immune or more highly resistant to repeat infections. The lockdowns were needless, but planned, self inflicted economic destruction.
I can't even IMAGINE what NYC would have looked like if nothing changed when we got hit early on. Packed subways and crowds everywhere with the virus spreading.
Many offices are still at least partly remote keeping crowds down, and masks are required when people can't distance. Cases we are seeing now seem to be related to social events, religious and otherwise.
This is what is scary - what the media is promoting and people like you are eating up.
they've found a single case in Nevada. Single cases in a couple of other countries. So maybe 10 cases worldwide. Let's say only 10% actually report - make it 100 people worldwide seem to have been reinfected. But let's put all 100 in the US.
There's a 0.00125% chance of reinfection. Fill Michigan Stadium with recovered Covid patients. ONE got reinfected.
yesterday or today, you'll see news reports of the virus living on money and glass for 28 days. You will be scared to death. But rest assured, you are unable in the real world to replicate the highly-controlled conditions - and artificial mucus - they used.
“We pretty much can kind of know what we need to have available and what we need to manage,” said Dr. Doug Griffin, Sanford Vice President Medical Officer.
Griffin said they had 82 ICU beds in 2019. This year, they’re up to 100.
He said there are enough beds for COVID and non-COVID patients, and they’re ready to double that number if needed.
Altru Hospital in Grand Forks said its current average daily count for the ICU is about the same as 2019 at this time.
They have two ICU beds and say the number of hospitalized patients has been lower, around 7-8%.
Essentia Hospital in Fargo said they don’t share specifics on the number of ICU beds that they have.
They said they are licensed for 145 beds, and while volumes are higher than average right now, they are able to manage changes in volumes and surges in patients.“
I too googled and found a different local link that tells a different story. Seems there was a snafu in reporting # beds, licensed versus beds staffed by medical professionals.
Link also talks to the state’s flip- flopping relative to masks and instructions to self quarantine. Governor makes clear stricter standards would be unpopular with the people.
Seems being popular carries a higher value than the science.
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