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Old 10-16-2020, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Haven't you been getting enough comic relief from following Mr. BankTrumptcy?
Dont know who that is.
I often wonder how anyone cheerfully support a senile old fool who repeatedly molests children. Can someone post that video of Biden touching little children?

The only funny thing is watching liberal sycophants scrambling to defend pedo joe
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Old 10-16-2020, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Meanwhile in reality...Obama expanded our employment. Despite a massive recession! Trump....continued with that...and then flubbed with with a disastrous Covid response. Under Obama we reduced the deficit...under Trump we have blown it up.
It was the weakest economic recovery since WWII. The deficit grew each year under Obama.

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Actually it depends on how you cherry pick the data. But heres the bottom line-the richest 1% are hundreds of billions richer....and thats about it. What you are bragging about is spending on the US credit card. LOOK at all the nice things I bought on credit!
Doesn't sound like cherry-picking to me. The corporate tax was lowered which helped business which in turn helped the economy and consumers. And over 80% of taxpayers got a tax cut (not just "the rich").
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Old 10-16-2020, 04:27 PM
 
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My British friend sent me this quote from an article in The Telegraph:

"Biden speaks like a man who has just been hit on the head with a mallet. He looks dazed and angry, like a punch-drunk boxer."



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Old 10-16-2020, 05:38 PM
 
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It was the weakest economic recovery since WWII. The deficit grew each year under Obama.



Doesn't sound like cherry-picking to me. The corporate tax was lowered which helped business which in turn helped the economy and consumers. And over 80% of taxpayers got a tax cut (not just "the rich").

Im sure we're all so much richer right now due to the pandemic.


FACTS-4% of the worlds population, and 20% of the deaths


weakest recovery since WW2, and also the biggest recession since then too. Weird huh? And yet....we recovered, and were doing fine. DESPITE the non stop GOP obstruction also a bit of a argumentive debate about recoveries and what they mean and look like,m but Im not feeling like that argument.


And you turn my comment about how weve done during the pandemic...and instead try to argue the taxcuts.....which guess what? yes. Lets REALLY look at that.


so since Trump took office, as a taxpayer I think I have made a extra 1-2K total in taxes I didn't have to pay. Now...this year ALONE we had a 3 trillion dollar deficit. That ALONE is more debt then I benefited. So what you are saying is...congratulations, here's a extra $1,000! Isnt that great! Oh...and heres the extra $8,500 in debt.



This is like someone bragging about how he got a extra $500 and is doing so great, and he got it from a payday loan place.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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"Just like I told the guy on ABC......"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKrpl-KBTzQ
Sean Penn the son of a communist. Good clip.
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Old 10-16-2020, 05:49 PM
 
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He said many idiotic things but one thing that really gets me because he should be smart enough to know better is to guarantee a down payment for first time home buyers. The last thing we need is something else to drive up housing prices, and help with down payments will do that. You are encouraging another housing bubble. The federal government needs to stay out of the housing market.
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Old 10-16-2020, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Im sure we're all so much richer right now due to the pandemic.


FACTS-4% of the worlds population, and 20% of the deaths


weakest recovery since WW2, and also the biggest recession since then too. Weird huh? And yet....we recovered, and were doing fine. DESPITE the non stop GOP obstruction also a bit of a argumentive debate about recoveries and what they mean and look like,m but Im not feeling like that argument.


And you turn my comment about how weve done during the pandemic...and instead try to argue the taxcuts.....which guess what? yes. Lets REALLY look at that.


so since Trump took office, as a taxpayer I think I have made a extra 1-2K total in taxes I didn't have to pay. Now...this year ALONE we had a 3 trillion dollar deficit. That ALONE is more debt then I benefited. So what you are saying is...congratulations, here's a extra $1,000! Isnt that great! Oh...and heres the extra $8,500 in debt.



This is like someone bragging about how he got a extra $500 and is doing so great, and he got it from a payday loan place.
Right, as if any other president could have prevented the pandemic.

You do know why the recession happened? (No, it was not Bush who caused it.)

If you are worried about the deficit, you should be on the side of the Republicans. They historically spend less than Democrats. Also, look at the second proposed stimulus package... a few months ago, Democrats wanted $3.4 trillion and Republicans only $1 trillion.
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Old 10-16-2020, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Obama was a job killer with regulations that strangled corporations which helped ship jobs overseas.. Trump took off the regulations and the high taxes on companies so they could make a profit here and hire Americans.


We had the highest corporate taxes and Trump lowered it to be among the lower end corporate tax rates creating jobs for AMERICANS because those corporations can now hire Americans and make a profit. More Americans employed in America so the tax base will grow to take care of other needs of the people.



We don't need to make Communist China rich and take our country over. The democrats have been bought and shipped jobs there with high corporate taxes and regulations that strangled companies here to make a profit. Trump changed all that. Americans first and we will get wealthy again. Biden is a job killer and will again make it harder for corporations to make a profit and have to look for cheap labor overseas to make a profit.. NO TO CHINA JOE.
Let's be honest-Biden and the Democratic party don't care about American's having jobs. In fact, they would prefer to kill jobs. Unemployed, desperate people are far more likely to vote for socialism. And of course, the Biden family receives most of their wages from China anyway.

They don't really care about government revenue-we have had record growth in federal revenue under Trump, due to a booming economy. The Democratic party wants to kill our economy, put our unemployment rate back up where it was under Obama/Biden (for most of Obama's first term, it was higher than it is right now-in the middle of a global pandemic).
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:10 PM
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It was the weakest economic recovery since WWII. The deficit grew each year under Obama.



Doesn't sound like cherry-picking to me. The corporate tax was lowered which helped business which in turn helped the economy and consumers. And over 80% of taxpayers got a tax cut (not just "the rich").
Under Trump the bottom 50%'s income grew faster than the top 50% for the first time in forever.
His trade policies, immigration policies and tax cuts did that.

As he said in the debate with Savannah, the US corporate rate was the highest in the industrialized world. That mean companies were moving overseas. He stopped that with a big cut in the corporate rate.

And corporate taxation is double taxation anyway. The shareholders get taxed on those gains when they get dividends and indirectly when they sell the stock.
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:12 PM
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He said many idiotic things but one thing that really gets me because he should be smart enough to know better is to guarantee a down payment for first time home buyers. The last thing we need is something else to drive up housing prices, and help with down payments will do that. You are encouraging another housing bubble. The federal government needs to stay out of the housing market.
That type of thinking is basically what got us the great recession. Clinton's banking act in 1998 forced banks to make bad loans in order to keep their charter. They HAD to make loans in poor neighborhoods that were bad risks. They bundled them up and resold them and that was a huge factor in the 2008 crash.
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