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Often in debate I am told this by democrats or otherwise those that identify as left. I disagree I think the Republicans have actually gone more liberal in ways. I believe and there is plenty of proof out there that the democratic party has gone far left getting to even a Marxism identity in some cases
But those that say the Republicans have gone far right especially when it was under Trump THIS IS YOUR thread to explain how that is so. Explain it pick a issue be it immigration, globalism, healthcare, freedom of speech or whatever topic and such and explain why or how you think this to be.
Those that were casting anyone who disapproved of Trump as socialist leftists certainly are too far somethin’. Wouldn’t say “right” as they abandoned conservative principles. Too authoritarian is more like it. Left/right it too simple. Need the y-axis of authoritarian/libertarian too.
But certainly those that think a Romney is too liberal and should be cast from the party, despite voting with Trump 75% of the time, are off the deep end themselves.
Well, when you support an insurrection to overthrow democracy and install a fascist dictator, I think that’s the answer to this thread. Anybody who can’t denounce what happened on 1-6-21 without deflecting the conversation to BLM is just as much of a traitor as those who stormed the Capitol.
Well, when you support an insurrection to overthrow democracy and install a fascist dictator, I think that’s the answer to this thread. Anybody who can’t denounce what happened on 1-6-21 without deflecting the conversation to BLM is just as much of a traitor as those who stormed the Capitol.
I denounced it several times, however the accusation that the Republicans have gone far right was being said long before that event, regarding issues so I want responses based on issues. Those that entered the capitol do not have my support and they don't have the support of most Republicans.
They were a fringe group. Is there extremists in the Republican party? Of course there are just like there are in the democratic party but I would say there are far far more in the democratic party compared to the republican.
I denounced it several times, however the accusation that the Republicans have gone far right was being said long before that event, regarding issues so I want responses based on issues. Those that entered the capitol do not have my support and they don't have the support of most Republicans.
They were a fringe group. Is there extremists in the Republican party? Of course there are just like there are in the democratic party but I would say there are far far more in the democratic party compared to the republican.
Those that failed to condemn it and Trump’s stolen election claims are just as bad.
Democrats that are calling for European model government changes certainly aren’t the extremist communists that the right make them out to be.
Often in debate I am told this by democrats or otherwise those that identify as left. I disagree I think the Republicans have actually gone more liberal in ways. I believe and there is plenty of proof out there that the democratic party has gone far left getting to even a Marxism identity in some cases
But those that say the Republicans have gone far right especially when it was under Trump THIS IS YOUR thread to explain how that is so. Explain it pick a issue be it immigration, globalism, healthcare, freedom of speech or whatever topic and such and explain why or how you think this to be.
They've done studies. The Republicans have stayed in place the last 20 years or so. The Democrats have moved, far, far to the left.
They have also determined that a lot of liberals think they are moderates. Conservatives are much more aware of where they are on the spectrum.
I think its these big city echo chambers. Democrats are not self-aware.
- Reagan and Republicans enacted gun control in CA in the 1960s, gun control bills at the federal level even through the 90s saw a number of Republicans supporting them. (ex: The 1994 AWB had 38 R's in the House support it. Would a 2021 AWB have that? I think not.)
- The Republican party used to be fiscal conservatives, yes. But not to the dogmatic extreme of "government can't do anything" and "the only direction taxes should ever go is down". Republicans used to believe that government could do big things, and sometimes was the right tool for it. The Interstate Highway System and the federal taxes to pay for it were created under a Republican president.
- Republicans were heavily in support of immigration and free trade. NAFTA was a Reagan campaign promise, signed by Bush, and ratified in 1994, passing the House and Senate with more Republicans in support than Democrats. (132R's in the House, 34R's in the Senate). I can't see any of that happening today.
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I'll agree that I'm not sure the direction the Republican party has moved is uniformly "right" in a traditional sense, but it's certainly become much more hard-line in whatever stance it's holding, and much less willing to tolerate dissent within the party from what the party line is.
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They definitely went far right on social issues, by letting the Southern Baptist Church get their claws in them, which the late Barry Goldwater warned about....
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