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Umm yeah I do. How many people have been on ventilators or died from a cold? 2 million people don't die from colds in less than a year. Zero people have died from a cold.
Plenty, it just doesn't make the news every year. Maybe you're getting hung up on splitting hairs which has not helped this whole mess. Most people call the disease they have based on the symptoms they have. Pre-corona, no one says "I have an adenovirus" or "I have a coronavirus" they just say "I have a cold." On the flip side, people with certain symptoms say "I have a flu" whether it's actually caused by the influenza virus or not. Here in this quoted post and me, we're talking about the virus itself. An adenovirus that infects the wrong person can send them to a hospital on a ventilator while another person with the same viral infection gets a runny nose for a day. My own dad had a something two years ago, and he's been on oxygen ever since. But because there wasn't a virus fad going on, no one batted an eye, panicked, or ran around demanding other people change their lives!
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It's not imaginary. You need to go to a hospital and see all the dying people. Then you would have more empathy and not make ignorant statements. However when you do get the virus don't go to a hospital for medical care since you obviously believe you can't get sick.
People have been trying to find all these hospitals with dying people lined up outside the door. No one's found any. The only reason anyone is overwhelmed is thanks to our fear-mongering media, you have plenty of people that cough a few times then call an ambulance or drive to the hospital, and ERs generally don't turn people away.
Japan's borders were either closed or tightly controlled since March 2020. I am fairly certain that tight border controls have been extended until March 2021.
Japan does not excessively test asymptomatic individuals. Japan also has the highest healthy life expectancy in the world. Oddly enough, the COVID mortality rate of Japan is marginally lower than that of the US-based on reported cases:
Despite Americans being mostly fat, unhealthy slobs.
Anyway, closing the borders would not have stopped COVID. But it certainly would have reduced cases and deaths, particularly along the Texas border.
In reality why E. Asia has such low rates is because they locked down in January. I had cousins back in Vietnam in January 2020. Vietnam began immediately locking down borders sometime then or beginning of February.
If we did our March/April lockdowns in January and then followed it with closed borders, we would be free of Covid too. Even with no masks.
But, I rather be able to leave my country, so no thank you. What they have going on in Thailand and Australia and Laos sounds terrible to me. I rather take my chance with Covid then be told I cannot travel.
Dr. Fauci has some useful and insightful things to say. But I'd not regard his recommendations as basis for policy. Remember, that as a physician, his emphasis is on maximizing the health of the patient. That isn't the only consideration, however. Nor should it necessarily be the dominant consideration.
For example, if my car-mechanic says that I should renew my car's engine-oil every 5000 miles, he's probably right. But I may have other criteria. Maybe I don't necessarily care about my car, planning instead on driving it into the ground. To disregard my mechanic's advice does not imply that I regard him as a liar, a charlatan or an ignoramus. I simply have different objectives, than those that dominate his thought.
In a similar way, Dr. Fauci could be entirely right in his diagnosis and predictions, but still wrong, in terms of what's best public-policy.
Dr. Fauci has some useful and insightful things to say. But I'd not regard his recommendations as basis for policy. Remember, that as a physician, his emphasis is on maximizing the health of the patient. That isn't the only consideration, however. Nor should it necessarily be the dominant consideration.
For example, if my car-mechanic says that I should renew my car's engine-oil every 5000 miles, he's probably right. But I may have other criteria. Maybe I don't necessarily care about my car, planning instead on driving it into the ground. To disregard my mechanic's advice does not imply that I regard him as a liar, a charlatan or an ignoramus. I simply have different objectives, than those that dominate his thought.
In a similar way, Dr. Fauci could be entirely right in his diagnosis and predictions, but still wrong, in terms of what's best public-policy.
Fauci and others like him can only give recommendations on what reduces the spread of this virus. They cannot take into account the damage these policies have on our economy, psychological state, etc. This is why we just cannot listen to them, even if they're right. And Fauci was wrong when it counted. Back in January and February.
Dr. Fauci has some useful and insightful things to say. But I'd not regard his recommendations as basis for policy. Remember, that as a physician, his emphasis is on maximizing the health of the patient. That isn't the only consideration, however. Nor should it necessarily be the dominant consideration.
For example, if my car-mechanic says that I should renew my car's engine-oil every 5000 miles, he's probably right. But I may have other criteria. Maybe I don't necessarily care about my car, planning instead on driving it into the ground. To disregard my mechanic's advice does not imply that I regard him as a liar, a charlatan or an ignoramus. I simply have different objectives, than those that dominate his thought.
In a similar way, Dr. Fauci could be entirely right in his diagnosis and predictions, but still wrong, in terms of what's best public-policy.
Here is Kary Mullis, the inventor of PCR amplification (he won the Nobel Prize for this work), which the public is being asked to misapply as an infection test, saying what he thought of Anthony Fauci:
"What is it about humanity that wants to go to all the details and stuff and listen, you know, guys like Fauci get up there and start talking--you know, he doesn't know anything really about anything. And I'd say that to his face. Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it's got a virus in there you'll know it!
"He doesn't understand electron microscopy, and he doesn't understand medicine, and he should not be in a position like he's in. Most of those guys up there on the top are just total administrative people and they don't know anything about what's going on at the bottom."
In reality why E. Asia has such low rates is because they locked down in January. I had cousins back in Vietnam in January 2020. Vietnam began immediately locking down borders sometime then or beginning of February.
If we did our March/April lockdowns in January and then followed it with closed borders, we would be free of Covid too. Even with no masks.
But, I rather be able to leave my country, so no thank you. What they have going on in Thailand and Australia and Laos sounds terrible to me. I rather take my chance with Covid then be told I cannot travel.
I don't disagree with you. In fact, I find it ironic (or moronic) that many of those that criticize America's COVID response the most, comparing it to countries that experienced better success, were also the most critical when Trump sought to mitigate COVID spread by implementing travel restrictions.
After I recovered from a mild case of COVID, someone told me I was one of the "lucky ones". I replied, "Yeah, one of the lucky 98.3%".
He's really enjoying his little power plays, isn't he?
Dr. Fauci playing: "Thumbs up/thumbs down." with us.
One day he's not sure if we need masks, the next day he says we need two.
We can go back normal if we will all just get the vaccine, oops not so fast, maybe we can't.
He got the jab in one arm, but the next, he complains it is the opposite arm that is "sore".
With his connection to NIH, he directed millions in funds to the Wuhan lab in China to study the Coronavirus. Oops, seems like a little virus escaped the Wuhan lab.
Anyone see his disgusting message to children about giving Santa Claus the jab?
This is the highest paid Government Official we have. Wonderful.
Wear a mask and maintain six feet distance, Fauci says you'll be protected from the virus.
he says that today, then changes his mind tomorrow
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