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Old 06-07-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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That's funny, these fools take 'anti-fascist' at face value...like no one ever co-opted a term to mean the opposite. Next they'll make a video saying that the People's Republic of China is actually a people's republic, because...the name says so.

The Anti-facists of today is nowhere near the quality of the Anti-facists of yesterday.

Just like the Neo-Nazis, the Proud Boy, The Boogaloo Boys are little minions compared to the Nazis of yester year.

But that doesn't mean one side isn't anti-facists and the other isn't facists. Just because they are basically little kids acting out in public doesn't mean they don't stand for what they stand.

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Old 06-07-2021, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The Anti-facists of today is nowhere near the quality of the Anti-facists of yesterday.

Just like the Neo-Nazis, the Proud Boy, The Boogaloo Boys are little minions compared to the Nazis of yester year.

But that doesn't mean one side isn't anti-facists and the other isn't facists. Just because they are basically little kids acting out in public doesn't mean they don't stand for what they stand.

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pAntifa doesn't stand for anything. They claim to be opposed to fascism, while behaving like fascists. Nothing about them makes any sense, like most far left types.
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Old 06-07-2021, 11:37 AM
 
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pAntifa doesn't stand for anything. They claim to be opposed to fascism, while behaving like fascists. Nothing about them makes any sense, like most far left types.

Antifa is a response to the rise in right-wing fascist movement.

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Old 06-07-2021, 11:48 AM
 
Location: NY
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Antifa is a response to the rise in right-wing fascist movement.

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Where are the 'right wing fascists?' In the small businesses of Portland and Seattle? That's where they are rioting and smashing things up. Ted Wheeler---chasing him out of his condo? I think Antifa just likes chaos and destruction.

Then they made an 'autonomous zone' that got people killed---patrolled with armed vigilantes and check points. They are not anti-fascist.
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Old 06-07-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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Antifa is a response to the rise in right-wing fascist movement.

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Do you have any coherent, accurate details on this "movement", or are you just regurgitating the twaddle spewed on CNN, MSNBC, PBS, the networks, NYT, WAPO, or the idiot puppet in the White House?
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Old 06-07-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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Where are the 'right wing fascists?' In the small businesses of Portland and Seattle? That's where they are rioting and smashing things up. Ted Wheeler---chasing him out of his condo? I think Antifa just likes chaos and destruction.

Then they made an 'autonomous zone' that got people killed---patrolled with armed vigilantes and check points. They are not anti-fascist.

That's a good point. Many on the left disagree with how some took the movement way too far. Personally, I think they got too powerful too soon, and some saw the chance to live out their teenage GTA fantasy.

With that said, they are still anti-fascist in principle. They never miss a chance to show up to counter right-wing fascist gathering that they got wind of; so it's not like they've abandoned their purpose. They just got this side gigs that me and other liberals don't agree with.

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Old 06-07-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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Antifa Democrats….hmm isn’t this what they wanted the violence , the fighting rioting, stealing
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:03 PM
 
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The people that compares our brave soldiers with antifa the domestic terrorist group are real sickos..Antifa hates America, Our soldiers fight for America and our freedom.
Indeed-

ANTIFA is just a totalitarian terrorist group- nothing more.

They, along with BLM, are enemies of America, not its defenders.

How many people in the greatest generation burned urban areas, looted businesses, and killed innocent people in the US? They saved that for the Germans and Japanese, who had it coming.
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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That's a good point. Many on the left disagree with how some took the movement way too far. Personally, I think they got too powerful too soon, and some saw the chance to live out their teenage GTA fantasy.

With that said, they are still anti-fascist in principle. They never miss a chance to show up to counter right-wing fascist gathering that they got wind of; so it's not like they've abandoned their purpose. They just got this side gigs that me and other liberals don't agree with.

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Fascists believe in silencing their opposition. That is exactly what pAntifa has been trying to do. They literally have showed up and attacked people physically for expressing their political views. They also use doxxing and other forms of intimidation to silence those with different views. pAntifa are the fascists. They are everything they claim to oppose, and they have proven that time and time again. It doesn't matter what they pretend to represent. What matters are facts and their actual behaviors. The same is true of Nazis, and everything else we know is bad in this world. Words are trumped by real life actions and behaviors.
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:34 PM
 
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this forum generally confuses fascism with Marxism, communism and authoritarianism and many posters will use the same language as the right-wing websites told them with their definitions far be it from me to challenge them



a simple explanation of fascism is business combines with government for the better of business, starting with Reaganomics and trickle-down economics is where modern antifa comes from
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