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Old 05-29-2022, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Why?

Because were it not for Republican Politics (and the money they get from that NRA) we might make some progress on a gun control bill.

Or it is okay that every few days we have some mad-man pop off a few of our children with a damned gun?
Funny that you never mentioned anything about controlling the mad-men that pop of our children every few days.? It's also funny that you say "with a damned gun" but you don't say "a damned man-man".

Why?

I say, "a damned mad-man" pops off a few children. Focus on the damned mad-man. That is where the problem lies.

Should a youngster without any safety training, vetting or mental assessment be allowed to walk into a gun store and buy a gun?

And by the way, I thought the NRA were collecting funds, not handing funds out?

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All these problems with shootings didn`t start until Facebook, and years earlier with chatting online, and now tiktok....these things are the problem that are driving our kids crazy. All our family values have gone out the window, with kids on their cellphones, in front of violent video games, listening to violent rap music.
The issue is not with GUNS!!!
Now that you see, is asking questions and thinking! Looking for real possible causes.
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Old 05-30-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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Folks, seriously.
Economy collapse on its way full steam.
Food shortages on their way full steam.
Power blackouts on their way full steam.
Looting and hunger riots following.
Which even half way sane government wants well armed citizens in such conditions?
KISS
Are you saying people should NOT be able to protect themselves?
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Old 05-30-2022, 06:59 AM
 
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raging second amendment gun owners are in fact a minority who the majority rightly or wrongly see as more harmful than helpful overall to this country
"raging second amendment gun owners are in fact a....."

All you have to do is to amend the 2nd amendment.

Being so few are FOR the 2nd as it is, according to you, it should be no problem for the anti gunners.

So, why hasn't ANY anti gun nut tried?
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:00 AM
 
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I don't know but dead kids have a way of moving minds and we all know how the Democrats Never Let a Good Crisis Go To Waste... well there is the Border crisis that they are ignoring..... They are also ignoring the daily shootings that plague so many of the Democrat cities, you know the ones that have Police Departments that were Defunded and the Officers were cast as the Racist enemy of minorities....



The Democrats will capitalize on any tragedy to advance their agenda.
Wasn't it a dem who said,"never let a good crises go to waste!"
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:05 AM
 
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We also had a problem with drunk drivers 40 years ago and a group called Mothers Against Drunk Driving got congress to take action putting in random traffic stops and fatalities went down. Other countries take actions and respond to mass shootings while we do nothing.

Reducing guns in circulation would be a logical step but we are not a logical nation when it comes to guns.
"Against Drunk Driving got congress to take action putting in random traffic stops and fatalities went down"
What did congress do?
DD is a LOCAL state, county, city, etc. responsibility.
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Old 05-30-2022, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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After the events of tragic shootings, immediately, Democrats call for unconstitutional crackdowns on firearms, and I got to thinking about it. Why, as a society, do we allow a political party to politicize a tragic event for their own gain? To me, it is classless and crude, which is exactly what they spend four years saying about President Trump.

Not to mention, there is *NO* gun law that can prevent mass casualties. If someone wants to bring harm to others, they will find a way to do so. Criminals do not care what a law says. Heck, murder is against the law, and that does not stop mass shootings from occurring.

While we do not have all the facts, in the Uvalde School shooting, it has been announced that the door the shooter entered was unlocked. It is a fact that if the door had been locked, twenty one people would still be alive... All schools, nationwide, should have locked exterior doors, at all times. Would it solve all school shootings? No, as it is impossible to prevent 100% of all school shootings. But, I can think of at least twenty one people that a locked door would have saved, in Uvalde, with a locked exterior door.

A few resident Democrat posters took umbrage that I thought school doors should be locked for safety reasons (But, I am sure they lock the doors of their house and automobiles... ). Once again, a locked door would have saved the lives of nineteen children and two teachers. That is when it became apparent that Democrats do not actually want to solve the problem, but, rather, use shootings to push their anti-gun agenda. And, I am quite disgusted with this. Locked school doors seems like a common sense idea that can be implemented *immediately* and can save lives. The "solutions" offered by Democrats cannot happen immediately, for many reasons.

This is not a rant, but, rather, a regurgitation of my thoughts.

Thoughts?
Interesting, as NPR had a report yesterday that showed the NRA getting together behind closed doors and trying to politicize the Columbine shooting just days after it happened. The plan they came up with to protect themselves from looking bad (NRA’s words, not mine), was to not create a Victim’s Fund, blame everything on everything else but guns, and accuse anyone who tries to talk about gun control after a shooting of trying to politicize the shooting. And here you are, 20 years later, peddling the NRA’s exact plan, without even knowing it.

The report came from someone who was in on the call, and recorded it. The NPR report actually plays the tape of the meeting. It’s pretty bad look for the NRA. They never really showed concern for the victims of Columbine, only how to politicize the event so their image didn’t take a hit. They even disparaged their own members, calling then the crazies, hillbillies, whackos, etc. NPR asked the NRA for comment, and the NRA didnt deny the authenticity of the tape, but just called it “A hit job.”
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Old 05-30-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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All these problems with shootings didn`t start until Facebook, and years earlier with chatting online, and now tiktok....these things are the problem that are driving our kids crazy. All our family values have gone out the window, with kids on their cellphones, in front of violent video games, listening to violent rap music.
The issue is not with GUNS!!!
I agree. Yesterday I was cruising the TV channels and came across a very violent movie. To me this was very inappropriate especially right after a mass shooting. Kids are being allowed to view violence on video games and movies these days. Yes, there are other factors contributing to these mass shootings by young people but that's a part of the problem, IMO. The family unit has broken down. So many parents are divorced or live in single parent households and their kids lack the supervision and direction of their parents these days.
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Old 05-30-2022, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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This! We need to bring back mental institutions. Some people are not fit to live in a civilized society, but do not belong in prison.
Ultimately-this. We need to identify the dangerously mentally ill, and forcibly secure them in facilities where they are no longer a threat to society, and, if possible, provide treatment. We hear about the mass shooting-but those (in terms of numbers) are just a tiny portion of the violent assaults committed by the MI on innocent victims. Particularly in cities where homelessness and MI is embraced and coddled-attacks and crimes by the homeless are exploding-and not a thing is done to contain it. Instead of securing the mentally ill and taking them out of civilized society, society instead is supposed to pretend that their delusions are real, to pretend that they are right, to sacrifice others to pander to them. We allow the mentally ill, and drug addicts (often one and the same) to take over some of the most expensive real estate in the nation, to live for free, to crap on the streets-and to commit assaults without repercussions.

We desperately need to open institutions to deal with the issue and protect society. We used to be smart enough to recognize this-but then it became "politically correct" to release the MI, and "reintroduce" them to society. To pretend that they were not sick, and in need of help. All because "institutionalization" was cruel and liberals wanted to be seen as nice and caring. And Republicans have been unwilling to stand up and say enough.

We have examples everywhere. From homeless that we let take over our cities. The freaks that masturbate in public and on the sidewalks of our cities and towns. The ones that assault women and children-that the left make excuses for (minor affected person my ass-these perverts are child molesters). To pandering to those that can't accept what sex they are and pretend to be another-and insist on using the bathrooms, showers and locker rooms of the opposite sex, and competing on their sports teams. When we have a little kid that thinks he's Superman-we don't put a suit on him and tell him to jump off the roof because he thinks he can fly. But if he thinks he's a girl, people will cut his weiner off and encourage him pretend to be a girl. Our society has lost it's damn mind.
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Old 05-30-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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I agree. Yesterday I was cruising the TV channels and came across a very violent movie. To me this was very inappropriate especially right after a mass shooting. Kids are being allowed to view violence on video games and movies these days. Yes, there are other factors contributing to these mass shootings by young people but that's a part of the problem, IMO. The family unit has broken down. So many parents are divorced or live in single parent households and their kids lack the supervision and direction of their parents these days.
They will not dare go after video games or violent movies!


It will be interesting to see how the violent video games sell after this recent shooting, I think maybe they will frown upon anyone buying them for awhile.
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Old 05-30-2022, 08:16 AM
 
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Ultimately-this. We need to identify the dangerously mentally ill, and forcibly secure them in facilities where they are no longer a threat to society, and, if possible, provide treatment. We hear about the mass shooting-but those (in terms of numbers) are just a tiny portion of the violent assaults committed by the MI on innocent victims. Particularly in cities where homelessness and MI is embraced and coddled-attacks and crimes by the homeless are exploding-and not a thing is done to contain it. Instead of securing the mentally ill and taking them out of civilized society, society instead is supposed to pretend that their delusions are real, to pretend that they are right, to sacrifice others to pander to them. We allow the mentally ill, and drug addicts (often one and the same) to take over some of the most expensive real estate in the nation, to live for free, to crap on the streets-and to commit assaults without repercussions.

We desperately need to open institutions to deal with the issue and protect society. We used to be smart enough to recognize this-but then it became "politically correct" to release the MI, and "reintroduce" them to society. To pretend that they were not sick, and in need of help. All because "institutionalization" was cruel and liberals wanted to be seen as nice and caring. And Republicans have been unwilling to stand up and say enough.

We have examples everywhere. From homeless that we let take over our cities. The freaks that masturbate in public and on the sidewalks of our cities and towns. The ones that assault women and children-that the left make excuses for (minor affected person my ass-these perverts are child molesters). To pandering to those that can't accept what sex they are and pretend to be another-and insist on using the bathrooms, showers and locker rooms of the opposite sex, and competing on their sports teams. When we have a little kid that thinks he's Superman-we don't put a suit on him and tell him to jump off the roof because he thinks he can fly. But if he thinks he's a girl, people will cut his weiner off and encourage him pretend to be a girl. Our society has lost it's damn mind.
Agreed. Our society is ripe for mental illness due to drugs, homelessness, no family guidance or unit anymore, violence in movies and video games, sexual perversion, jobs that don't pay a liveable wage anymore to support the high costs of living and the list goes on and on.
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