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Old 07-13-2022, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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No one is "allowing" the fentanyl to come in. It's too easy to hide, and there is no way that all of it can be stopped. Keep in mind that it's mostly coming in in mail shipments, truckloads of other other items, hidden in cars, etc.


You'll never stop fentanyl until you really close the defacto open borders.

But Democrats will never allow that to happen.

Importing millions of illegals is so important to them, that they're perfectly fine with the number of deaths caused by fentanyl.
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Old 07-13-2022, 05:19 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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You'll never stop fentanyl until you really close the defacto open borders.

But Democrats will never allow that to happen.

Importing millions of illegals is so important to them, that they're perfectly fine with the number of deaths caused by fentanyl.

Well the stereotype is that fentanyl abusers are more likely to be white rural people who would vote for Trump or DeSantis while illegals will vote for the dem. So maybe they figure the fentanyl is a feature not a bug.
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Old 07-13-2022, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Nothing against Weed, but every kid I know smokes it, as well as many adults. Government at the State level are legalizing it and medical MJ is very easy to obtain. Remember this is a drug that the Cops can still nail you for on the Federal level.

But nicotine is the Devil? Seems a bit hypocritical to me. I'm not a smoker nor MJ user.
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Old 07-13-2022, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Was Juul only gone after because it was accused of advertising to young people with different flavors, etc? I'm trying to figure out why they were targeted?
More just it reached a critical mass. They advertised in general, which most vape products don't, but it was the prominent brand in a market that's generally smaller companies. There's some larger Chinese companies that make the hardware but as far as the nicotine flavoring "juice" it's almost all cottage industry stuff.

What gets popular with the youth is inexplicable. For example, right now Carhartt is trending. Or maybe it was trending, the in thing moves quickly. Why do the kids suddenly want baggy fit work clothes suddenly? I have absolutely no idea.

Really doesn't make sense they're still fixated on JUUL as the kids have moved on to other similar products be they one of the many companies that make refillable cartridges you can put your own much less expensive mango strawberry or whatever flavor juice you want that work with JUUL devices or other brands like Elf Bar, Geek Bar, SMOK, Caliburn, etc. The regulations are really stupid so prefilled cartridges like JUUL are tobacco or menthol only while like 90 percent of the market is the flavors fruit, desert, candy, cereal flavors. As long as it's refillable pods that the user needs to add the honeydew or keylime flavored juice to the pod it's good. If it's prefilled like JUUL official pods that aren't supposed to be refilled, tobacco or menthol only.
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Old 07-13-2022, 06:02 AM
 
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JUUL was the high schooler's nicotine of choice for a solid few years back in 2015-2020. They hooked a whole new generation, including one of my kids, and I don't appreciate that. But I don't support banning their products, or menthol cigs, or cocaine or fentanyl. I don't think any drugs should be illegal. Nanny state garbage. We don't need open borders to get our drugs. We can make any of them en masse right here in the good ol' USA.
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Old 07-13-2022, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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You'll never stop fentanyl until you really close the defacto open borders.

But Democrats will never allow that to happen.

Importing millions of illegals is so important to them, that they're perfectly fine with the number of deaths caused by fentanyl.
You'll never stop it period. They'll catch a few muke here and there but it's to easy to hide a small amount in carryon luggage on a flight, passenger cars, trucks, boats. It's simply not necessary to for the coyotes to put a small amount of it on illegals trying to hop the border on foot.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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JUUL is essentially a drug delivery device, and should be regulated by the FDA. Cigarettes escape this scrutiny because they are “natural “ and have been around for centuries. Vaping devices are neither.
No they don't. All tobacco products are regulated by the FDA, and that includes all products containing nicotine whether extracted from tobacco or synthesized. Synthetic nicotine products escaped FDA regulation for awhile until some vape manufacturers took advantage of this and started using synthesized nicotine, but that "loophole" was closed by the appropriations bill passed this last March.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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Bureaucratic bans yippy. Would kind of be nice to live in a democracy and have elected legislators who have debates then vote for or against banning stuff.

What ever, now sales of real Tabaco go up.
And people actually believe that our children are supposed to pledge allegiance to these politicians.
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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JUUL is essentially a drug delivery device, and should be regulated by the FDA. Cigarettes escape this scrutiny because they are “natural “ and have been around for centuries. Vaping devices are neither.
What happened to my body my choice? Is just a bumper stick slogan you bring out for abortion and forget about it every other time ?
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Old 07-13-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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What happened to my body my choice? Is just a bumper stick slogan you bring out for abortion and forget about it every other time ?
Very few republicans or democrats believe that we should have any say over what we can do with our bodies.
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