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Old 07-03-2022, 04:46 PM
 
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We’re talking about biology and whether an acorn is an oak tree. It isn’t.

Neither is a fertilized human ovum, not implanted in the uterine wall, a human being. It’s a human seed. Men like to call their sperm seed but they aren’t. They’re pollen. The seed is created when the sperm unite with the egg.

And human seeds are not human beings.

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"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]
https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/a...yoquotes2.html

 
Old 07-03-2022, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Does the child given to you belong to you. >?
 
Old 07-03-2022, 04:54 PM
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Right. That’s what I said.

Like an oak tree starts with an oak tree seed.
 
Old 07-03-2022, 04:56 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
We’re talking about biology and whether an acorn is an oak tree. It isn’t.

Neither is a fertilized human ovum, not implanted in the uterine wall, a human being. It’s a human seed. Men like to call their sperm seed but they aren’t. They’re pollen. The seed is created when the sperm unite with the egg.

And human seeds are not human beings.
Scientists all over the world disagree with you.

Life begins at conception (fertilization of the egg).

Really...acorns and trees ????
 
Old 07-03-2022, 04:57 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Right. That’s what I said.

Like an oak tree starts with an oak tree seed.
Clara, we are not talking about trees here.

Human life...sperm and an egg.
 
Old 07-03-2022, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Clara, we are not talking about trees here.

Human life...sperm and an egg.

Mesenchyme
 
Old 07-03-2022, 05:04 PM
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Clara, we are not talking about trees here.

Human life...sperm and an egg.
We’re talking about biological sexual reproduction and at what point does the seed become a viable member of the parent species, and at what point it remains a seed that didn’t sprout.

A fertilized human egg is like the acorn on tge sidewalk. Maybe it will have a chance to implant and grow. Maybe not though, and it will die as just a seed.
 
Old 07-03-2022, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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We’re talking about biological sexual reproduction and at what point does the seed become a viable member of the parent species...
It is always a viable member potential and the natural process of time it gains more features.

It is, always, from conception, a member of our species.
 
Old 07-03-2022, 05:13 PM
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It is always a viable member potential and the natural process of time it gains more features.

It is, always, from conception, a member of our species.
Most fertilized eggs don’t implant and grow into a full term fetus. They’re seeds that may well sprout but they’re not humans.
 
Old 07-03-2022, 05:14 PM
 
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So it is okay if the states do it? Then it’s not murder? Still hypocritical.
Take it up with the states. I've not said if I support or oppose them.
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Why would you? I mean that’s exactly what I’m saying.
So you are pro-life.
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