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Old 07-08-2022, 05:18 PM
 
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yes, the wealthy do need the poor

if there weren't poor/hungry people, who would work at McDonalds, or any other minimum wage job, that we all witnessed during the pandemic, are the ESSENTIAL workers?

Paying them a wage to lift them well into middle class won't work, because food will be too expensive.

If they were comfortable from some other line of work, that paid, they certainly wouldn't be offering to flip your burger.

The "working poor" is a part of a capitalistic society and always will be.

And I didn't dodge your question.

I answered it fully.
Maybe we don't need fast food for one. Wouldn't affect me if they all closed due to a lack of workers. Let the market sort it out. I won't eat trash anyway.

We had a mere fraction of these FF restaurants when I was growing up and look how average weight has ballooned from the 70's until now. 70% of the population is currently obese.

Pharma just gets richer by the resulting illness.

Walmart wasn't around when I was growing up either. If we quit or greatly slow down our consumption on throwaway stuff, it's one way to starve the beast.

I am not against capitalism but it's become predatory. Not the capitalism I grew up with that's for sure.

If the true liberals cared, (it should be bipartisan actually) they would make 28.99% credit card interest and $45 late fees illegal. That's in payday loan territory and is obscene. But it's common now for all of the lenders. They would still make a very healthy profit with a lot less. But of course, the banks and their lobbyists won't have that. Oh, and let's not forget our tax dollars bailed these same crooks out in 2008. They made out like bandits too. Unbelievable when you think about it all.
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Old 07-08-2022, 06:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ClaraC View Post
yes, the wealthy do need the poor

if there weren't poor/hungry people, who would work at McDonalds, or any other minimum wage job, that we all witnessed during the pandemic, are the ESSENTIAL workers?

Paying them a wage to lift them well into middle class won't work, because food will be too expensive.

If they were comfortable from some other line of work, that paid, they certainly wouldn't be offering to flip your burger.

The "working poor" is a part of a capitalistic society and always will be.

And I didn't dodge your question.

I answered it fully.
My first job was at McDonald's when I was 16. I am far from that now. The managers make enough to live on (at least back then), and they manage the low wage workers as I was - $3.85/hr was minimum wage.

Low wage jobs will exist, but it should be a revolving door as people mature and get older... there should not be a permanent under class of poor people that work that are just getting by.

What these elites are trying to do is make substandard living palatable to the masses. You wouldn't that for yourself or your family. I don't want. You can bet your last dollar that the elites don't want that for their families.

Since you agree with the article - how are you on income inequality? Do you complain about that?
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:07 PM
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My first job was at McDonald's when I was 16. I am far from that now. The managers make enough to live on (at least back then), and they manage the low wage workers as I was - $3.85/hr was minimum wage.

Low wage jobs will exist, but it should be a revolving door as people mature and get older... there should not be a permanent under class of poor people that work that are just getting by.

What these elites are trying to do is make substandard living palatable to the masses. You wouldn't that for yourself or your family. I don't want. You can bet your last dollar that the elites don't want that for their families.

Since you agree with the article - how are you on income inequality? Do you complain about that?
I don't "agree" with the article, as much as I think it's an incredibly bold, and honest look at the elite wealthy of the world.

Whoever wrote that is either totally tone deaf and can't read the room, or is willing to step up to the mic and tell the truth. Since the article was quickly pulled, it's probably the former, but I'd admire it more if it were the latter.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:07 PM
 
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World hunger is less about people working minimum wage at McDonald’s and more about people willing to work for near slave wages in third world countries just so they can not starve to death. I see no real positives to it.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:09 PM
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World hunger is less about people working minimum wage at McDonald’s and more about people willing to work for near slave wages in third world countries just so they can not starve to death. I see no real positives to it.
I'm not sure the author was talking about starving to death. Everyone will recognize that's a world problem that should concern us all, no matter how far removed we are from it. Famines and blights where populations literally starve to death, is a horror the UN, I'm sure, is interested in eradicating.

What they're talking about is people who are willing to do manual labor for subsistence wages.
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Old 07-08-2022, 07:11 PM
 
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I don't "agree" with the article, as much as I think it's an incredibly bold, and honest look at the elite wealthy of the world.

Whoever wrote that is either totally tone deaf and can't read the room, or is willing to step up to the mic and tell the truth. Since the article was quickly pulled, it's probably the former, but I'd admire it more if it were the latter.
You finally decided to answer my original question.

I don't agree with it either. We could have saved some bandwidth.

The tone is in the vein of - "you will own nothing and be happy about it".
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Old 07-08-2022, 08:12 PM
Status: "This too shall pass. But possibly, like a kidney stone." (set 20 days ago)
 
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You finally decided to answer my original question.

I don't agree with it either. We could have saved some bandwidth.

The tone is in the vein of - "you will own nothing and be happy about it".
That is actually hearkening back to a prediction, NOT AN ORDER, that this generation of Americans will own nothing and be happy about it.

It's coming to pass, as predicted. In general.

They're not buying houses because they're eating avocado toast.
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Old 07-09-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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I'm not sure the author was talking about starving to death. Everyone will recognize that's a world problem that should concern us all, no matter how far removed we are from it. Famines and blights where populations literally starve to death, is a horror the UN, I'm sure, is interested in eradicating.

What they're talking about is people who are willing to do manual labor for subsistence wages.
They reference the Brazilian ethanol slaves and allude to migrant type workers. It is more about people who are very desperate, not so much fast food workers.
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