Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:24 AM
 
8,425 posts, read 12,196,511 times
Reputation: 4882

Advertisements

OK, so the nutball president of Hillsdale College stated:
Quote:
“Here’s a key thing we are going to try to do. We’re going to try to demonstrate that you don’t have to be an expert to educate a child. Because basically anybody can do it.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...best-colleges/

He also said that education majors go to the dumbest part of colleges and basically are not smart.

Now, president Larry Arnn can believe what he wants (and his statements were made in the presence of the TN Republican governor who has yet to distance himself from them) but he has packaged his beliefs for selling in charter schools to be established in the states. TN expects to start about 100 schools with his insights on learning. Wh else? Desantis in FL.

Quote:
Hillsdale helped create new K-12 civic standards for Florida public schools and is partnering with the state’s Department of Education to help train teachers on those new standards. Some teachers who underwent the training told the Miami Herald that Christian and conservative ideology ran throughout the material.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/educa...best-colleges/

So DeSantis is ok with indoctrination as long as it is conservative and Christian, it seems.

Arnn stated further:

Quote:
“The teachers are trained in the dumbest parts of the dumbest colleges in the country.”
“In colleges, what you hire now is administrators…. Now, because they are appointing all these diversity officers, what are their degrees in? Education. It’s easy. You don’t have to know anything.”
“The philosophic understanding at the heart of modern education is enslavement…. They’re messing with people’s children, and they feel entitled to do anything to them.”
https://www.wvlt.tv/2022/06/30/gov-l...best-colleges/

Quite a guy.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:31 AM
 
11,846 posts, read 5,823,197 times
Reputation: 14280
I don't see the problem in a child having the "OPTION" into go to a charter school, Christian school or public school. It's up to the parents to decide what they want their children taught. And yes - colleges are indoctrinating teachers now who in turn indoctrinate children.

Why do you have a problem with indoctrination only when it goes against your beliefs? I call it being taught morals and ethics - what this country was founded on.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:38 AM
 
8,425 posts, read 12,196,511 times
Reputation: 4882
Quote:
Originally Posted by xray731 View Post
I don't see the problem in a child having the "OPTION" into go to a charter school, Christian school or public school.
Well, it is elementary school and public funded. Are you willing for your tax dollars to go toward Islamic education?

Quote:
Originally Posted by xray731 View Post
Why do you have a problem with indoctrination only when it goes against your beliefs? I call it being taught morals and ethics - what this country was founded on.
I think that his educational programs clearly are slanted toward his political and religious beliefs. That's a problem for me.

Conservative make extreme, knee-jerk reactions to what they presume to be leftist indoctrination.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
3,997 posts, read 4,147,253 times
Reputation: 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manigault View Post
Well, it is elementary school and public funded. Are you willing for your tax dollars to go toward Islamic education?
I thought if it was publically funded it couldn't include religious education?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
19,833 posts, read 9,398,479 times
Reputation: 38425
I just want to point out that it does not necessarily take a college degree to teach a child. Public school education did not become common until about the mid-19th century.

https://www.leaderinme.org/blog/hist...al%20education.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Ohio
1,884 posts, read 1,005,894 times
Reputation: 2871
America has always been a bit anti-education, but looney lefties pushed the zealous righties over that cliff. Now we're all falling.

Quote:
Originally Posted by katharsis View Post
I just want to point out that it does not necessarily take a college degree to teach a child. Public school education did not become common until about the mid-19th century.

https://www.leaderinme.org/blog/hist...al%20education.
I can't disagree, but we do live in a different world. Homeschooling can be great, but most people need two 40+ hr/wk incomes, some modern (decent) jobs require more extensive education than then, and a general fostered/forced dependency on govt/society (that's a post in itself).

Simply put, "things just aren't the same". But you're not wrong.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
6,753 posts, read 3,376,739 times
Reputation: 10376
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manigault View Post
Conservative make extreme, knee-jerk reactions to what they presume to be leftist indoctrination.
There are no presumptions. If you haven't seen what the radical left has been pushing on young students, you haven't been paying attention.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:48 AM
 
8,425 posts, read 12,196,511 times
Reputation: 4882
Quote:
Originally Posted by aus10 View Post
I thought if it was publically funded it couldn't include religious education?
Well, I guess you'd have to talk to DeSantis about that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
24,521 posts, read 17,271,978 times
Reputation: 35824
Welll this country was founded on Christian beliefs and it has been made great by old fashioned notions such as the Golden Rule, Ethics, Morals, Empathy and the desire to do better every day from the People and the promise of our Elected to do what is Right for the country and her People.



What we have today is the opposite of all of that.



Many of us have come to the conclusion that the harder the Left rails against someone or something chances are that someone is exactly who we need to do the Right thing for us.



If Desantis does run in 2024 the Left is going to come out in force against him and it is going to get ugly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-10-2022, 10:50 AM
 
8,425 posts, read 12,196,511 times
Reputation: 4882
Quote:
Originally Posted by katharsis View Post
I just want to point out that it does not necessarily take a college degree to teach a child. Public school education did not become common until about the mid-19th century.

https://www.leaderinme.org/blog/hist...al%20education.
Were you around for Sputnik in 1957? That's when American took a real hard look at education and cranked up the professionalism of educating teachers.

Look, the guy Arnn is just wrong.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top