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It's an exaggeration to say the senator is proposing to "destroy" Social Security and Medicare.
What the senator is proposing, based on my interpretation of the linked article, is to allow congress to have oversight and the ability to make decisions regarding appropriations, as they do with other programs.
I think the naming of most bills is to try and gain support due to the name, then you put in other items that can not be passed on their own and criticize those that don't support both the good and bad items.
Controlling medicare costs has been discussed for years in both Dem and Rep administrations. Wonder why they could not pass in the past?
I think we can get better discussions if we state a position without mentioning political parties. The position should include the main points of the bill and the non related items in the bill.
It's an exaggeration to say the senator is proposing to "destroy" Social Security and Medicare.
What the senator is proposing, based on my interpretation of the linked article, is to allow congress to have oversight and the ability to make decisions regarding appropriations, as they do with other programs.
Destroy is exactly what his idea would do. You have a program you contribute to all your working life -- for 40 or 50 years-- and Johnson wants Congress to have to approve the program every year? So here we go... in 15 years from now, Congress decides not to do the annual approval. What happens to all the money you contributed?
Oh stop with your sly efforts at insults. They're so mean spirited.
I agree - click bait is mean spirited. And knee-jerk reactions don't help at all.
Furthermore, you have made a logical error called a faulty generalization or a fallacy of defective induction. Totally illogical.
A fallacy of defective induction is a conclusion that has been made on the basis of weak premises, or one which is not justified by sufficient or unbiased evidence. Unlike fallacies of relevance, in fallacies of defective induction, the premises are related to the conclusions, yet only weakly buttress the conclusions, hence a faulty generalization is produced. The essence of this inductive fallacy lies on the overestimation of an argument based on insufficiently-large samples under an implied margin or error.
One senator was discussing the difference between mandatory and discretionary spending. Since this difference was the basis for the blow-up of the PACT bill, this is a relevant discussion to have. No where is there a discussion to gut Social Security. On the contrary, the senator's point was "that without fiscal discipline and oversight typically found with discretionary spending, Congress has allowed the guaranteed benefits for programs like Social Security and Medicare to be threatened." But that thought, fiscal responsibility, doesn't fit the agenda and isn't click bait.
Typical biased and untrue headline from MSN. Here is the rebuttal for Sen. Johnson that was posted near the bottom of the OP link article that was full of misplaced outrage, QUOTE, my italics and bold:
The Senator’s point was that without fiscal discipline and oversight typically found with discretionary spending, Congress has allowed the guaranteed benefits for programs like Social Security and Medicare to be threatened,” Johnson spokeswoman Alexa Henning said in an email.
“This must be addressed by Congress taking its responsibilities seriously to ensure that seniors don’t need to question whether the programs they depend on remain solvent,” she added. “As he said, we need a process to save these programs and no one is doing anything to save them long term. We just continue piling up debt, mortgaging our children’s future, and putting these programs at risk.” [end quote]
If anyone should be outraged, it should be at the spin MSN put on this!
Im afraid the op isnt going to get the outrage they are trying to get. Its just not there.
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