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Originally Posted by Freak80
The Supreme Court ruled in Wisconsin v. Yoder that religious freedom (for the parents) trumps child welfare.
"The right wing, Trump stacked, Supreme Court of christian zealots" ruled that "religious freedom" trumps the civil rights of children and non christians."
"The right wing, Trump stacked, Supreme Court of christian zealots" ruled that "religious freedom" trumps the civil rights of children and non christians."
There, fixed it for ya.
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The Supreme Court ruled in Wisconsin v. Yoder that religious freedom (for the parents) trumps child welfare.
But SCOTUS required public grammar schooling so the kids would have some basics in an increasingly technological world. Public high school was what was made optional (if high school homeschooling occurred) because the high school years can make or break the hold of affinity groups.
I think that home-schooling is mainly due to parent vanity. It does not help the social development of the children.
Not all of education of children is in the classroom -- part of education is interacting with others outside of one's family.
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Originally Posted by jamies
"The right wing, Trump stacked, Supreme Court of christian zealots" ruled that "religious freedom" trumps the civil rights of children and non christians."
Hasidic Schools in NY received over $1billion in the last 4 years yet fall far below even the most poor performing schools. No history or science, little math or English, mostly study of religious text. They have 100 schools but in the entire state only 9 schools tested had less than 1 percent testing at grade level, all were Hasidic.
They leave school unprepared and have little opportunity to perform in the secular world and end up on public assistance.
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But some Hasidic schools give the exams as a condition of receiving public funding. In 2019, when nearly half of all New York students passed the tests, 99 percent of the thousands of Hasidic boys who took the exams failed, a Times analysis found.
Hasidic Schools in NY received over $1billion in the last 4 years yet fall far below even the most poor performing schools. No history or science, little math or English, mostly study of religious text. They have 100 schools but in the entire state only 9 schools tested had less than 1 percent testing at grade level, all were Hasidic.
They leave school unprepared and have little opportunity to perform in the secular world and end up on public assistance.
I started reading the WaPo when I lived in the DC area years ago. I still read it online occasionally. I have not found a better newspaper; perhaps you can suggest one? Of course, I know their OP-Ed pages are going to be slanted left, but unlike many on this forum I am able to distinguish news from opinion.
Most of the homeschool kids I've met as an adult seemed a little spastic and "off", but one was the starting quarterback on the local, large public high school. Mind you, most of the kids I met were Catholic and had joined our Cub Scout pack because it was affiliated with the Catholic school where my kids went.
Unfortunately, the lack of socialization during formative years is something that affects the person in one way or another for many years after HS graduation, sometimes maybe even for life.
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Originally Posted by KaraG
I've belonged to churches in the Southern Baptist Convention. They aren't preaching anything evil about schools. Many of the members are teachers. They aren't racist. We have all races and many interracial families in our church. I think some people just like to bash churches.
I'll hazard an educated guess that one of the reasons more families turn to home schooling is the increased emphasis on adult issues like sexuality and gender. Add in bullying, drugs, misbehaving children with uninvolved parents, no discipline from school.
Since the '80s, Independent Fundamental Baptists (the denomination I grew up in) have been far more into homeschooling than the SBC. The SBC is more likely to attempt to control the curriculum in the public schools while the IFB pushes homeschooling. The IFB split from the SBC at some point around the 70s over issues such as King James Version Onlyism, dress codes, singing worship songs instead of hymns from a hymnal, and to what degree Christians are required to be separate from the world. On the IFB side, public schools were seen as evil and parents were highly encouraged to either send their kids to the IFB school or to homeschool.
Home schoolers cover a pretty big spectrum of beliefs, backgrounds, and reasons- ultra liberal to ultra-conservative, schooling at home for religious reasons, because local schools are low quality or their kid is constantly bullied or parents just don’t like the curriculum offered. The quality those kids get is all over the map from ‘headed toward Harvard’ to functionally illiterate at age 18.
It’s one of those blind person describing an elephant kinds of things. I think it’s a good idea to call out the kinds of homeschoolers who aren’t doing a good job of preparing their kids for the modern world while also giving a disclaimer that they’re one of many subsets of home-schooling families.
Because when one of the reasons for keeping kids out of schools whether public or private is because there are mandatory reporters for suspected child abuse who work there, then that’s all kinds of screwed up.
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