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Old 07-08-2023, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Under Newsom, since '19, Cali went from large budget surplusses, to a large budget deficit that could reach $34,500,000,000 for 2023-24:

https://calmatters.org/explainers/ca...vised%20budget

The massive swing is being caused by lower tax revenues. So, why are tax revenues falling?

1M+ taxpayers have fled under Newsom...outbound net domestic migration of >1/4M/year...since 2019, & growing! Cali's loss is = to the population of Montana!

https://www.rubyhome.com/blog/leaving-california/

Also, 153 corps moved their HQ's out of Cali on Newsom's watch...like American Airlines, Chevron, McAfee, Hewlett Pakard, Pabst Brewing Tesla, Oracle, Charles Schwab:

https://californiaglobe.com/articles...ys-new-report/

The economic impact of losing all these large employers is in the Trillions.

Newsom would destroy America's economy.

Large employers would flee offshore, & take their jobs, & Trillions, with them under a Newsom Presidency.

Wealthy Americans would also flee, just like they did from France under Francois Hollande, (a Newsom clone) after Hollande jacked taxes on the rich; like Newsom has done in Cali, & would do on all America's job creators, if given the chance:

https://www.france24.com/en/20150808...-echos-figures

Moderate Democrat & Independent voters...you have been warned.
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Under Newsom, since '19, Cali went from large budget surplusses, to a large budget deficit that could reach $34,500,000,000 for 2023-24:

https://calmatters.org/explainers/ca...vised%20budget

The massive swing is being caused by lower tax revenues. So, why are tax revenues falling?

1M+ taxpayers have fled under Newsom...outbound net domestic migration of >1/4M/year...since 2019, & growing! Cali's loss is = to the population of Montana!

https://www.rubyhome.com/blog/leaving-california/

Also, 153 corps moved their HQ's out of Cali on Newsom's watch...like American Airlines, Chevron, McAfee, Hewlett Pakard, Pabst Brewing Tesla, Oracle, Charles Schwab:

https://californiaglobe.com/articles...ys-new-report/

The economic impact of losing all these large employers is in the Trillions.

Newsom would destroy America's economy.

Large employers would flee offshore, & take their jobs, & Trillions, with them under a Newsom Presidency.

Wealthy Americans would also flee, just like they did from France under Francois Hollande, (a Newsom clone) after Hollande jacked taxes on the rich; like Newsom has done:

https://www.france24.com/en/20150808...-echos-figures

Moderate Democrat & Independent voters...you have been warned.
He’s not running. But as the previous thread, the link projected Fl would be in deeper debt within the next 2 yrs. Can we blame RonnieD ?
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:45 AM
 
Location: MN
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My friend who owns two companies (not brick and mortar) that each bring in 7 or maybe now 8 figures each, they sold Santa Monica nice house for a tax friendly Scottsdale place. Guarantee this is now their “home base”. They had moved to LA about 10 years ago to make more money (their two industries thrive there, fitness and now podcast wealth management).
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Old 07-08-2023, 05:50 AM
 
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When about half of Americans can’t afford a sudden $400 expense, maybe we need to talk about some destruction of the current system.
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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He’s not running. But as the previous thread, the link projected Fl would be in deeper debt within the next 2 yrs. Can we blame RonnieD ?
Off topic This thread is about California and Newsom. Feel free to start your own thread about FLA, but don't deflect this thead off topic.
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:22 AM
 
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Turns out people don't work to pay taxes and like keeping the money they worked hard to earn in their own pockets.

Also, to be fair, American Airlines was never HQed in California. It's been a Dallas-based airline for as long as I can remember. I believe it was HQed in New York before that. Same concept above applies.

They did shut down their SFO crew base though on Newscum's watch.

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Old 07-08-2023, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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My friend who owns two companies (not brick and mortar) that each bring in 7 or maybe now 8 figures each, they sold Santa Monica nice house for a tax friendly Scottsdale place. Guarantee this is now their “home base”. They had moved to LA about 10 years ago to make more money (their two industries thrive there, fitness and now podcast wealth management).
The rate companies are leaving Cali has hastened under Newsom's watch. Here's a list of the bigger and better known:

https://buildremote.co/companies/com...ng-california/

Employers leaving adds to joblessness and homelessness. Cali has more homeless people than the next highest 5 states combined!

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...omeless-people

Cali's economy is shrinking in 2023 under Newsom after very modest growth in 2022:

https://www.comerica.com/insights/ec...f%20the%20year.

Anyone not convinced that Newsom will announce he's running, needs to read this article, which also covers his economic failure:

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/gavin-...snt-announced/
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Let's first give Newsom credit for two years of record revenues and budget surpluses! He was a genius then, I suppose. The main reason for Cali's budget volatility is in the nature of its tax structure - not because people who can't afford a home there are moving to Texas. California is seeing sharply reduced income due mostly to troubles the wealthy are having with returns on stock investments. California disproportionately relies on taxes upon the wealthy, so when the rich hurt, the state hurts. Fortunately, Newsom squirreled away some of the record revenues of the past couple years, which will soften the shortfall until improvements in the markets are reflected in tax payments.
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:54 AM
 
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California's budget relies heavily on Capital Gains taxes. It relies heavily on (wealthy) people buying and selling stocks and RE. Any correction or stagnation in the markets = budget deficits. On the flip side, when the economy was ROCKETING out of the Covid collapse, CA had a $100 billion surplus almost entirely from Capital Gains. California squandered all that money via direct payments of $350.00 per taxpayer that made $75,000 or less.

So when CA alienates their wealthy pool of people and the market stagnates, the budget is busted. That's why we now have a $35 billion deficit, potentially much higher when/if the US economy enters a new recession. California sure could use Elon Musk's wealth to help pay some bills right about MEOW.
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Old 07-08-2023, 06:57 AM
 
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Let's first give Newsom credit for two years of record revenues and budget surpluses! He was a genius then, I suppose. The main reason for Cali's budget volatility is in the nature of its tax structure - not because people who can't afford a home there are moving to Texas. California is seeing sharply reduced income due mostly to troubles the wealthy are having with returns on stock investments. California disproportionately relies on taxes upon the wealthy, so when the rich hurt, the state hurts. Fortunately, Newsom squirreled away some of the record revenues of the past couple years, which will soften the shortfall until improvements in the markets are reflected in tax payments.
Newsom had nothing to do with that.

The credit for the surplus is from wealthy people making money in the stock market and Real Estate.
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