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Old 10-11-2023, 09:08 AM
 
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How does this dispute what Amnesty International is saying?
You seem to want to lecture me rather than ask questions.
Ask so called friend and AI why instead of improving lives of Palestinians using money (large amounts) and all other help Hamas and other members of government wage nonstop war on Israel. What is more important war on Israel or lives of own people?

Israel now has good relations with nearby Arab countries and was on the verge of signing last agreements with Saudis and Saudis together with UAE would also help palestinians... but Iran was not happy about it so they kept funding Hamas and this is a result.

 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:16 AM
 
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Even though there were attempt to create two states for a long time this never happened. Israel left Gaza after uprising and violence. Hamas took over Gaza completely. Hamas does not recognize a right of Israel to exist.
Right, before Hamas took over, Gaza was more open with cross-border traffic and Palestinians and Israelis intermingling more and shops and recreational areas. Unfortunately since 2006, things have gone backwards. Don't get me wrong. Things were not pretty even before 2006.

Pretty good map here of Gaza today. The airport is destroyed, there's a border wall similar to the one in Korea, and there's a good sized Naval Blockade of the area. This graphic really makes one understand why many consider it to be an "open air prison"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...strictions.pdf


The whole situation is rather messy considering the long and complicated history of the area.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:17 AM
 
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I remember hearing awhile back that Harvard students were against Israel and did not like the jews. does anyone know why? with the recent war this has come up again. I think both sides are wrong these people have been fighting for thousands of years and it's nonsense. obviously, it is religiously related even the Christians hold that land holy.

It seems Harvard students are taking Palestine's side but the university itself is trying to do the opposite. Are there a lot of Muslim students at Harvard?

conflicts like this in the middle east could start world war 3. The United States likes to escalate these situations. our politicians love the idea of armageddon. Some think it gives us an excuse to go to war with Iran.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/1...tacks-00120624

https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/10...l-for-attacks/

video.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBQ0rgz1QD4
The media use "Harvard" to attract eye balls. In fact, only one student organization of Harvard issued such a statement.

You wonder what organization it is? It's the Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups.
The media hide/burry this deep in their articles.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:24 AM
 
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As I said the OP paints with a big brush.


It was 31 students, Harvard has an enrollment of over 22,000. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:31 AM
 
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Not all of the students.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:44 AM
 
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You seem to want to lecture me rather than ask questions.
Why do you think that? My only response to you was a question.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 09:51 AM
 
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Not all of the students.
Obviously it's not all students but I was under the impression it was several groups. I'll look further into this.

When I think Harvard I think some are rich Jews.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 10:02 AM
 
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Sorry but the OP is way off here. He is painting his opinion with a wide brush and while I will not deny that some do. They is a good deal of students that don't, many Jews themselves. Again he is also off on his political beliefs about our politicians.
Both democrats and republicans are warhawks. They risk world war 3 helping Ukraine giving them weapons and tanks and talk of fighter jets.we get involved in other counties problems and we try to police the world. Rand Paul is one of the few politicians that aren't like this. Trump prevented war also .
 
Old 10-11-2023, 10:13 AM
 
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Harvard is the original anti-Semitic university of America. They've been anti-Jew for over 100 years, and clearly, haven't lost touch with that tradition.
 
Old 10-11-2023, 10:16 AM
 
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As I said the OP paints with a big brush.


It was 31 students, Harvard has an enrollment of over 22,000. Take it for what it's worth.
While I agree... in many sources it says 31 organizations

https://nypost.com/2023/10/09/thirty...-hamas-attack/

"Thirty-one Harvard organizations blame Israel for Hamas attack: ‘Entirely responsible’ "

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2...ment-backlash/

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Authored by the Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee and originally co-signed by 33 other Harvard student organizations Saturday, the statement came under fire from federal lawmakers, University professors, and other students.
Even their own gazette said 33 organizations.

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