One City’s Surprising Tactic to Reduce Gun Violence: Solving More Nonfatal Shootings (statistics, racist)
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Gee, I dunno…maybe they can just do what Giuliani did back in the 90s when he brought the murder rate from 3,000 per year down to statistically nil. But I guess that would be racist.
Gee, I dunno…maybe they can just do what Giuliani did back in the 90s when he brought the murder rate from 3,000 per year down to statistically nil. But I guess that would be racist.
The fourth amendment would why stop and frisk can be unconstitutional. You need reasonable suspicion. But you can throw the race card around if you want. So your final answer is murders dropped from 3000 to "nil" as you call it?
How about we quote actual data not made up numbers? They peaked in 1990 before Rudy G was mayor and were falling also before he took over. He did bring them down but they were over 1000 in 1994 his first full year. Dropped to the 600's under Rudy, not nil. The murder rate nationally dropped during that time about the same rate. So not sure how much a difference Rudy actually made. Then more recently dropped to 292 in 2017. They are still now way below the numbers when Rudy was mayor. 3000 to nil. Nope. That never happened.
A Denver police unit started investigating all shootings like homicides. Now other cities are taking notice.
So they're doing their job and actually investigating shootings? I would have thought they were doing that all along. Then again we live in a country where prosecutors let gang members shoot it out on the streets and decide that they'll not prosecute. Nevermind all the innocent people in the neighborhood who could have been shot, or the trauma that puts on kids growing up in high crime areas. It isn't these new prosecutors' goal to help them. They only seem to care about criminals.
Prosecuting crime and actually putting violent criminals in prison works. We know that because we saw how effective it was in the '90s.
So they're doing their job and actually investigating shootings? I would have thought they were doing that all along. Then again we live in a country where prosecutors let gang members shoot it out on the streets and decide that they'll not prosecute.
Prosecuting crime and actually putting violent criminals in prison works. We know that because we saw how effective it was in the '90s.
So they're doing their job and actually investigating shootings? I would have thought they were doing that all along. Then again we live in a country where prosecutors let gang members shoot it out on the streets and decide that they'll not prosecute. Nevermind all the innocent people in the neighborhood who could have been shot, or the trauma that puts on kids growing up in high crime areas. It isn't these new prosecutors' goal to help them. They only seem to care about criminals.
Prosecuting crime and actually putting violent criminals in prison works. We know that because we saw how effective it was in the '90s.
I would not blame the police. They have limited resources, they are forced to pick and choose. Good news is others are looking at Denver and more will hopefully follow suit. Its not about prosecution. If the non fatal shooting is not fully investigated you don't have a perp to prosecute.
Every comment devolves into tribalism too quickly. Sad state of America.
The fourth amendment would why stop and frisk can be unconstitutional. You need reasonable suspicion. But you can throw the race card around if you want. So your final answer is murders dropped from 3000 to "nil" as you call it?
How about we quote actual data not made up numbers? They peaked in 1990 before Rudy G was mayor and were falling also before he took over. He did bring them down but they were over 1000 in 1994 his first full year. Dropped to the 600's under Rudy, not nil. The murder rate nationally dropped during that time about the same rate. So not sure how much a difference Rudy actually made. Then more recently dropped to 292 in 2017. They are still now way below the numbers when Rudy was mayor. 3000 to nil. Nope. That never happened.
Seeing a vehicle with blacked out windows, creeping down a street at 3:00am, in a particularly violent neighborhood well known for drive bys would be "reasonable suspicion" , I'd think.
Or a group of people milling around the side of a gas station, in the middle of the night, where many car jackings have taken place , would be "reasonable suspicion" , I'd think.
The ACLU would be all over a police department if they stopped and investigated that above individuals.
And that is where the problem is. Yes, we can't violate peoples rights, but there has to be some common sense and logic utilized , if we want to see violence reduced in the war zones that many of our cities have become.
Just be honest. Until they go after black criminals hard, nothing will change. We have all seen the statistics. That 14% of the population commits 60% of all murders. 70% of all violent crime. It is NOT racist to go after criminals no matter their race. But as long as you have big cities run by Democrats, the shootings will continue. Most black people vote for Democrats and the Democrats don't want to alienate their voters.
The fourth amendment would why stop and frisk can be unconstitutional. You need reasonable suspicion. But you can throw the race card around if you want. So your final answer is murders dropped from 3000 to "nil" as you call it?
How about we quote actual data not made up numbers? They peaked in 1990 before Rudy G was mayor and were falling also before he took over. He did bring them down but they were over 1000 in 1994 his first full year. Dropped to the 600's under Rudy, not nil. The murder rate nationally dropped during that time about the same rate. So not sure how much a difference Rudy actually made. Then more recently dropped to 292 in 2017. They are still now way below the numbers when Rudy was mayor. 3000 to nil. Nope. That never happened.
Rudy G literally transformed NYC from being Sh*thole to one of the best cities in the world overnight. If you want to get a leftist really mad, Democrats made NYC so bad that Trump came in and bought up property cheap because of them. Rudy G came in and cleaned up all the Democrat disease and made Trump billions.
I would not blame the police. They have limited resources, they are forced to pick and choose. Good news is others are looking at Denver and more will hopefully follow suit. Its not about prosecution. If the non fatal shooting is not fully investigated you don't have a perp to prosecute.
Every comment devolves into tribalism too quickly. Sad state of America.
This isn't too shocking, most of the shootings in a city like Denver are going to be a small number of gang members. Their targets are generally other gang members and occasionally some rando they get in a fight with.
Denver's bigger challenge may be getting a prosecutor to make sure the guy gets 10-20 years for the shooting and isn't out strolling around for 2 years wearing a monitor and then serves 1.5 years for the crime.
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