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Austinsmom, you lie.
You don't know squat about me except what I post on a forum.
You may recall that I consider many PARENTS to be distasteful and that they raise brats.
Yes, I know you're speshul as are your offspring.
Austinsmom, you lie.
You don't know squat about me except what I post on a forum.
You may recall that I consider many PARENTS to be distasteful and that they raise brats.
Yes, I know you're speshul as are your offspring.
Yeah and you just proved my point for me with your response so thanks.
There actually is a bizarre subculture that's working toward the extinction of the human race. The way some people talk about others and about babies and children, perhaps they are part of that group.
It appears they're liberal environmentalists run amok.
The decision to have children (or not to have children) is a very personal one; but nevertheless one that directly affects society as a whole, and thus it is a decision laden with responsibilities that far outweigh our selfish desires either way. Not all persons should have children. Many have children for all the wrong reasons, and as many make for poor parents that treat their children as no more than personal possessions. Indeed, most people give more thought to buying a puppy than they do to bringing a child into the world. As Darwin observed: “Man scans with scrupulous care the character and pedigree of his horses, cattle, and dogs before he matches them; but when it comes to his own marriage he rarely, or never, takes any such care. . . .” Charles Darwin, Descent of Man, Ch. XXI, “General Summary and Conclusion” (1871). The principal distinction between man and the rest of the animal kingdom is the ability to reason; and yet how little consideration is given to such an important matter as rearing a child. One would think that we had but small brains for the lack of foresight as to the consequences of our decisions.
Folks, we are getting a little personal and quite a bit off topic here. Just a reminder that the topic is...
As if abortion wasn't disgusting enough...
Doesn't it seem funny that threads concerning abortion always get a high number of replies ... and eventually end up becoming wars of words & personal attacks???
I am distinctly pro choice, but that doesn't mean I favor abortion. Truth of the matter is, I despise abortion when it's used as gender selection, and I don't always approve of it when it's used as birth control. However, the pro lifers need to realize that if abortion is outlawed, that will not stop women from having them. Wealthy women will travel to countries where it's legal, and the poor women will seek unsafe, unsanitary methods of terminating their pregnancies as they did before 1973.
As it stands, government money is paying for all these children born to poorer families who can't afford them, and therefore, really have no business having kids. Procreation is not a Constitutional right ... and even if it was, with rights come responsibililties. Many pro lifers call abortion irresponsible ... but I consider families with multiple children living on public assistance EXTREMELY irresponsible. It seems the anti abortion crowd is far less concerned about their tax money being wasted on irresponsible breeders ... so as far as I'm concerned, pro lifers are really bleeding heart liberals disguised as social conservatives.
Procreation is not a Constitutional right ... and even if it was, with rights come responsibililties.
OMG! Yes, rights come with responsibilities...such as the personal responsibility to take care of a life you created through your actions.
Procreation is not a right?! So then by your statement the government has the ability to tell me when I may or may not reproduce, how many children I may have (if any), etc.
OMG! Yes, rights come with responsibilities...such as the personal responsibility to take care of a life you created through your actions.
Absolutely! The problem is that there are too many sperm donors and baby machines out there (who I affectionately refer to as breeders) who aren't responsible. They have babies by the barrel and rely on government assistance, which is YOUR tax money and MINE to pay for their irresponsible baby making. That includes all the public schools we're paying for which are really nothing more than free day care centers for breeders. As I mentioned before, the fact that so many gov't "entitlements" are being given to all these breeders doesn't seem to bother the pro life crowd very much ... which leads me to believe that pro lifers are really closet liberals.
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Originally Posted by MamaBee
Procreation is not a right?! So then by your statement the government has the ability to tell me when I may or may not reproduce, how many children I may have (if any), etc.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything specific about procreation being a right. We have the right to keep and bear ARMS ... not keep & bear children. Therefore, if it's not a right, it becomes a privilege. Privileges can legally be taken away if they are abused. Personally, I don't favor the government dictating how many children someone can have ... but I do favor taking away all these so called entitlements that the government hands out to people with children. If they can't afford the upbringing of children, they have no business having them, and they have no right to expect taxpayers to subsidize their reproductive habits.
Absolutely! The problem is that there are too many sperm donors and baby machines out there (who I affectionately refer to as breeders) who aren't responsible. They have babies by the barrel and rely on government assistance, which is YOUR tax money and MINE to pay for their irresponsible baby making. That includes all the public schools we're paying for which are really nothing more than free day care centers for breeders. As I mentioned before, the fact that so many gov't "entitlements" are being given to all these breeders doesn't seem to bother the pro life crowd very much ... which leads me to believe that pro lifers are really closet liberals.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say anything specific about procreation being a right. We have the right to keep and bear ARMS ... not keep & bear children. Therefore, if it's not a right, it becomes a privilege. Privileges can legally be taken away if they are abused. Personally, I don't favor the government dictating how many children someone can have ... but I do favor taking away all these so called entitlements that the government hands out to people with children. If they can't afford the upbringing of children, they have no business having them, and they have no right to expect taxpayers to subsidize their reproductive habits.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
1. Our Constitution wasn't written to tell the citizens what they can do, it was written to tell the government what it can do.
2. Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791.
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
The ability to procreate is a fundamental right of life and liberty and Natural Law.
I haven't met a conservative that is in favor of entitlement/welfare programs...most of us are against socialism.
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