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Old 08-05-2008, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I often hear about the death of the republican party. I welcome it. my question is this. do liberals really think that true conservatives are dying off? I don't think so. true conservatives are going to overtake both parties. just give it some time.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:59 PM
 
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But in the meantime, it will be a blessed relief to have neither faux nor real conservatives in power for the next 8 or more years.
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:35 PM
 
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I often hear about the death of the republican party. I welcome it. my question is this. do liberals really think that true conservatives are dying off? I don't think so. true conservatives are going to overtake both parties. just give it some time.

Well, my snarky answer is yes, in circles. But my real question is what do you mean exactly by "true conservatives?"
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Old 08-05-2008, 11:45 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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News stations were reporting that the GOP lost well over one million registered voters in the past 4 yrs while the Democrats have been gaining. Republicans, as we know them, are no longer a force in American politics [the death stroke was Bush/Cheney].

I hope Republicans morph into Libertarians [then everybody would be content for a change
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Old 08-06-2008, 05:33 AM
 
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Don't they just become less conservative, in a sense? Isn't that how it works? Strom Thurmond would be too conservative for most conservatives today, right?
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I often hear about the death of the republican party. I welcome it.
Why would you welcome it, because you disagree? What happened to "diversity", that liberal demi-god and political mantra? Why wouldn't you welcome many "diverse" political opinions that can enrich your life and give you different perspectives?

Wouldn't the death of the Republican Party leave us with only liberals and Democrats, which would diminish our life experience and rob us of a diversity of political thought?
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I don't think conservatives have enough appeal to the American public to be much more than a consistent minority. Conservatives began to think they were mainstream when they teamed up with the neo-cons and won a lot of elections. We've now all seen how bankrupt neo-conservatism is as a political philosophy, but that leaves the "paleoconservatives" as the party of Goldwater.

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Old 08-06-2008, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Sitting on a bar stool. Guinness in hand.
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Look most voters are fickle. They have the memory of a gold fish (which I believe last about 5 minutes) And most have only one value, that is, I want my life to be as convenient and comfortable as possible with as little sacrifice as possible. They will vote for whoever can sell them that platform each election cycle. It doesn't matter if they're Dem's, Rep's, Lib's, or Green's. It the platform of what is easiest that will win.
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Old 08-06-2008, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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I don't think conservatives have enough appeal to the American public to be much more than a consistent minority. Conservatives began to think they were mainstream when they teamed up with the neo-cons and won a lot of elections. We've now all seen how bankrupt neo-conservatism is as a political philosophy, but that leaves the "paleoconservatives" as the party of Goldwater.
That's interesting but have you considered that a majority of Presidential terms have been filled by Republicans since WWII. In fact no Democrat since Roosevelt, except Clinton, has won re-election (Truman and LBJ were only elected to one term each).

In Congress, one of the primary reasons that Democrats held the majority until 1994 was that southern states elected conservative Democrats. Since reconstruction, Democrats were the dominant political force in the south. That has changed, with most southern states now falling into the Republican camp. Hence the turnover in 1994.

If you look at elections as recent as the 2004 Presidential race, conservatives are still the majority overall in the country. You can ask President Kerry. The turnover in Congress in 2006 was due to several factors, including the Republican majority abdicating its fiscal responsibility, and some backlash against the war and Republicans who forgot what ethics are about. I don't think it will be long term, especially if Speaker Pelosi continues down her current path. Approval ratings for Dems in Congress are in the toilet.

If you look at the political landscape in the country, at worst, conservatives are 50% of the electorate. Only in places like SF, DC, NY, Boston do people look around, see a sea of left leaning politics, and assume they're the majority overall in the country.
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Old 08-06-2008, 07:29 AM
 
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Wouldn't the death of the Republican Party leave us with only liberals and Democrats, which would diminish our life experience and rob us of a diversity of political thought?
To be fair, the number of libertarians seems to be growing. So I wouldn't rule them out, and they do provide another viewpoint. And maybe this isn't as widespread as I think, but a lot of people I've met who used to identify as conservative have been identifying with libertarian ideals recently. Maybe there's something to that?
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