I Thought Refineries Were BANNED!

[Moth]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Exactly - it is not a NEW refinery

I don't think KevK knows the difference between the "expansion" of an existing facility and ... "starting from scratch" - NEW

Its a nebulous concept. Right up there with quantum physics.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by happ

Once I went swimming around Playa Del Rey & came out of the ocean w/ oil spots on my trunks

So?

Try Spray and Wash - it will got those oil spots off

[Innovator831021]

Originally Posted by GregW

Refineries are needed but even with the best engineering practice are noisy, smelly and have a propensity to explode. They are not good neighbors. Unfortunately because most of the raw oil and refined products are shipped by tanker a sea side location is needed. Too bad the lots of people also like seaside property but object to an eyesore that is noisy, stinky and dangerous.

Ewwwww.... refineries are so smelly and yucckkky... GROSS!!! You sound like a child who has turned up his nose to dish he does not like.

If it provides jobs, makes society operate and strengthens the economy I don't care what it smells, looks or sounds like.

[rlchurch]

Originally Posted by KevK

That is what the conservatives latest cry is! How the liberals "won't allow any refineries to be built" and how the liberals pick on the poor little oil companies. So I assumed that refineries were bad and banned. But then today I read that Royal Dutch and Saudi Arabia are sinking about $2 billion into a HUGE refinery project in Texas.

Home - Motiva Port Arthur Refinery Expansion Project

The important point here is that the EPA doesn't treat a major refinery expansion differently than a greenfield plant. Both require a full environmental review. These expansions show that adding refining capacity in the United States does occur on a regular basis. It's not an easy process, nor should it be. We want to be careful with the environment.