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Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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What do you guys think about Unions one way or the other. I grew up in Texas (Houston) which is basically a non union state. I see nothing but Union spouting ignorance here in California. I am beyond belief how brainwashed a lot of people are about how badly unions can hurt business and city budgets.
Location: Central Bay Area, CA as of Jan 2010...but still a proud Texan from Houston!
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[quote=TVC15;14869141]What do you guys think about Unions one way or the other. I grew up in Texas (Houston) which is basically a non union state. I see nothing but Union spouting ignorance here in California. I am beyond belief how brainwashed a lot of people are about not knowing how badly unions can hurt business and city budgets.
Please insert the not knowing part into my original post
Unions were born in response to some truly abusive practices by management. How would you like to work 6 days a week, 12 hours a day in a mine and be paid in scrip redeemable only in the company store and to pay the rent on your company owned shack?
Many things we take for granted today (like the weekend) were paid for in blood by the early labor organizers.
But, as is human nature, unions got greedy and now the pendulum is swinging back....
Unions were born in response to some truly abusive practices by management.
That's it, in a nutshell. But this is City-Data, and a thread with the word "union" in the title is like a magnet. (I was going to say, like a certain substance to a fly, but I decided on the polite version.)
Go to the fridge and get a snack, because here they come. And you know who they are!
What do you guys think about Unions one way or the other. I grew up in Texas (Houston) which is basically a non union state. I see nothing but Union spouting ignorance here in California. I am beyond belief how brainwashed a lot of people are about not knowing how badly unions can hurt business and city budgets.
Please insert the not knowing part into my original post
Travel over to Baytown, Pasadena, Freeport, etc and come back with an enhanced understanding of Texas being anti-union. LOL Kids are naive.
Unions were born in response to some truly abusive practices by management. How would you like to work 6 days a week, 12 hours a day in a mine and be paid in scrip redeemable only in the company store and to pay the rent on your company owned shack?
Many things we take for granted today (like the weekend) were paid for in blood by the early labor organizers.
But, as is human nature, unions got greedy and now the pendulum is swinging back....
The unions have been in decline for the last few decades. It is likely the income distribution imbalance will result in a growth in unions. The pendulum is swinging, just not in the direction you might think.
The unions today are not very representative of what the unions stood for in the early 1900's. They believed in fair wages, fair compensation. They believed in employing very skilled workers with excellent safety practices. They believed in a system that could be profitable for both employees and employers. They also understood that in order for the laborers to profit, the contractor/business had to profit.
Now they've gained such a sense of self-entitlement that they destroy companies from the inside out. These are the companies who also believe in hiring skilled workers. Skilled American workers. And they believe in paying very fair wages to have that. That's why they're hiring from a union. The problem with union workers now, is that they don't seem to understand the problem with destroying the very foundation (companies that hire union labor) of what allows them to be profitable in the first place.
Since the all out attack on unions the 40 work week has gone away. When you hear on the news about the increased productivity in the work place. That means mom don't get home till eight and she's working Saturday for no extra pay.
The only way unions will work as they are composed now, is if every human in the USA were in the same UNION.
A good idea to control the thugs, turned them into thugs to combat what they originally fought for. Corruption was entwined, from the beginning of Unions, with the Mafia and other organized crime.
These days, Unions are just organized crime, when you look at the top.
Location: Finally escaped The People's Republic of California
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It's very popular today to demonize unions..........
So now our President has said that Americans don't want construction jobs,
The trades ie: carpenter, painter , roofer, drywall, mason, etc etc no longer pay a wage a man can raise a family on.....
What was once a great union job has been pushed down to the rank of farm worker...how sad
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