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Old 03-28-2015, 09:24 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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The casinos choose to allow smoking. They must think it is more profitable to do so.

You want your rules applied at someone else's property.
Sorry to tell you this, but the casino is about as public as you can go. When you bring together all the chain smokers playing the penny machines for hours, well the place gets very thick with smoke and the smell is horrible . I like the smell of a good cigar, I could handle that, it's the coffin nails that I can't stand, never could, and I smoked 3-5 cigars a day for 50 years. Tonsil cancer made the decision to quit, and I did as soon as I got the call on my cell phone that I had cancer, it's been 4 years now, 10 years now I quit booze...both cold turkey no problem. I miss the cigar, not the vodka or whatever, maybe a glass of wine I miss too.

So yes, I want the casino to ban smoking, and if enough people complain they may listen, maybe not. If we want to gamble there is no other place, no choices. It's all regulated by the state , I say that's public property when they are open, and, that's 24-7 everywhere. The states representatives made the choice to allow smoking in casino, and not anywhere else. We as voters elected these fools , that's frankly our only way, vote them out. Again it's all public, " your someone else's property " thing will not fly here, . There are more non smokers than smokers......you tell me what the future will bring?
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:32 PM
 
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A bar or restaurant is not a public place, you're a guest hence the reason you can be denied access or thrown out for any reason.

If you are sitting in place that allows smoking that is your responsibility and yours alone. What you are saying is you are not responsible enough to make that decision on your own and I would suggest you are not responsible enough to be in a bar to begin with.


Despite the fact I can make fantastic amounts of money doing it I don't work trees anymore because it's a huge risk. Again, be responsible for yourself an make your own decisions as an adult. Again it amazes me that you would want someone else to make these decisions for you.
It should be illegal for you to poison other people. Second hand smoke is deadly and science has proven as much. It's nearly as deadly as bullets.

It should be illegal for ANY company to allow smoking in their establishments. I don't want other people to make choices for me, but I choose to invoke public policy that protects people from being poisoned at work. If we follow your logic, there should be no workplace safety standards at all because people can just opt out of working there. That's nuts. People shouldn't have to make a choice between cancer and a job. Your choice to smoke kills the people around you. You don't have that right.

Smoke at home and we're good.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:40 PM
 
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It should be illegal for you to poison other people.
Again, if you choose to enter an establishment that allows smoking that is your responsibility. It's not mine, it's not the business owners... it's yours. As I said before put on your big boy pants and take responsibility for your own decisions like the rest of us.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:48 PM
 
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Wow, I didn't realize one could still smoke inside! I believe they banned smoking in bars/clubs, restaurants or any indoor public place back in 1999 in California. I did smoke back then and adjusted. I didn't stink so horribly after being out so that was a good thing. However, we have a mild climate and going outdoors in January is not going to kill you from freezing to death. LOL

I don't smoke any longer but am not anti-smoking. I don't care if someone smokes around me. However, it is pretty rare where i live so I feel for you if you live in an area where a majority still smokes. My condo building "bans" smoking on the balconies BUT it won't be enforced unless someone complains. Anyway, I just didn't realize that this was still an issue in some parts of the country.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:49 PM
 
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Again, if you choose to enter an establishment that allows smoking that is your responsibility. It's not mine, it's not the business owners... it's yours. As I said before put on your big boy pants and take responsibility for your own decisions like the rest of us.
So you don't care if you are poisoning the people who work there? That's amazing to me.

All I can say is thank God that your position is dying out quickly and being replaced by more sensible public policy. And I mean that in the most literal sense.

Smoke at home.
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:00 PM
 
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Another person who thinks they have "exclusive" rights over anyone else. I guess some folks just have a complex from being bullied and pushed around as kids, and now feel they need to assert some kind of authority over others, so they pick something as dumb as smoking. No one forces anyone to smoke or to be around anyone that does. If you don't like the smell, walk away. Its a free society. Go some place else. Its really that simple, as you said.



Yes, it is a free society and that's why many states have smoking bans
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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So you don't care if you are poisoning the people who work there?
They like you need to make their own decisions. If I were to return to the coal business and got black lung is that my responsibility or the customers that I'm serving?
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:38 PM
 
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Yes, it is a free society and that's why many states have smoking bans
...and in NYC they have a health board that tried to ban certain sized sodas and proposed limiting popcorn and milkshakes. It's a very slippery slope....
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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...and in NYC they have a health board that tried to ban certain sized sodas and proposed limiting popcorn and milkshakes. It's a very slippery slope....
That's not the same thing and that's not what we are talking about.
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Old 03-28-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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So you don't care if you are poisoning the people who work there? That's amazing to me.

All I can say is thank God that your position is dying out quickly and being replaced by more sensible public policy. And I mean that in the most literal sense.

Smoke at home.

Nope, their choice to work in an environment that allows cigarette smoking
Your choice to enter a business that allows cigarette smoking

I have decided to appease all of you non smokers who are so much better than I am, I will compromise with you on this issue.

I will quit smoking in public when all of you quit breathing in public.........deal?


PS ~~ Preach at home.
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