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Old 12-19-2008, 08:00 AM
 
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I don't care about homosexuality. As long as gays keep on presenting themselves in pop-culture the way they do. Things will never change. I don't care about gays or lesbians but in reality, they get treated better here than they would in Mexico. Eventhough Mexico signed the agreement.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:01 AM
 
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Ever hear of this one?



Amendment XIV, Article 1.

It's only been around for the last, oh, 140 years or so.
Thank you I was going to respond, but you beat me to it. No state should be able to take any rights away from one group of citizens. I guess we are all created equal until someone "chooses" to be gay.

I can't believe this is still an issue in our society.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Thank you I was going to respond, but you beat me to it. No state should be able to take any rights away from one group of citizens. I guess we are all created equal until someone "chooses" to be gay.

I can't believe this is still an issue in our society.
Now show me in the constitution where it says that homosexuality is a right. Notice that the other rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights specifically say that congress shall make no law about these things.

Freedom of Speech, yes
Freedom of press, yes
Freedom of Religion, yes
Freedom of assembly, yes
Right to bear arms, yes
Jury trial, yes
Right to stick your private parts in areas that nature did not intend. Nowhere to be found.

Once again, it is a state issue, and the states themselves have every right to regulate such behavior, or not to, depending on the individual state's legislature and people.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:15 AM
 
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Shouldn't something have to be illegal here for us to vote against us declaring it legal? This is just a case of a group wanting to find something to be angry at. This is a non-issue because homosexuality isn't illegal in our country.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:24 AM
 
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No gays in Iran, says Ahmadinejad

So now civil unions equates to this sort of stance....
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Your point? Nothing about sex in there either. You seriously think that homosexual sex was what the 14th amendment was talking about? The 14th Amendment was part of the aftermath of the Civil War and was there to preserve the rights of the citizens of the south after they had lost, and to assert that they were still United States Citizens.

Once again, the federal government has no authority to regulate such things on account of the 10th Amendment. That means that the power to regulate, or not to, rests with each individual state legislature. Once again, I see no need for federal involvement. Why do you wish to force your views on states wherein it is possible that the majority of voters in that state disagree. Let the individual states decide for themselves on the issue.
So if a state wanted to make heterosexual sex illegal, that would be okay because the state has the right to make that decision for themselves on the issue?
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Maine
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So if a state wanted to make heterosexual sex illegal, that would be okay because the state has the right to make that decision for themselves on the issue?
That is the point I'm trying to make. The same thing goes for states that want to make it legal.

Georgia may want it illegal, California may want it legal. But by no means should what is culturally accepted in California be thrust upon the good people of Georgia. Nor should Georgia's traditionalism be forced upon the people of California. Each state should be sovereign over its own borders.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I can't think of a single state or federal statute which refers to the illegality of homosexuality.

Once again, people are conflating homosexuality with homosexual "marriage" in order to incite an argument based on the false premise that sexual preference is equivalent to racial identity, which is transparently illogical, owing to the existence of both sexes and all sexual proclivities in all races.

If the UN is interested in doing something useful, it might address the disturbing Canadian policy of restricting free speech in the name of political correctness:

Canadian Human Rights Commission free speech controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:46 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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So if a state wanted to make heterosexual sex illegal, that would be okay because the state has the right to make that decision for themselves on the issue?
Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if that ever happened??? But yet, it's ok for the homosexuals...sad.
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Old 12-19-2008, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I can't think of a single state or federal statute which refers to the illegality of homosexuality.
There were about 20 or so state statutes making private adult homosexuality a crime until the Supreme Court properly struck them down in 2003. (You should've seen the right wing crowd go into an apoplectic fit.) They did so precisely on the basis I mentioned earlier; a state cannot deprive individuals of rights guaranteed by the United States (14th Amendment)--and simply because it is not enumerated (spelled out) in the text of the Constitution, melinux, doesn't mean it doesn't exist (9th Amendment.)
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