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Old 01-03-2009, 06:52 AM
 
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ignore him all you want, but don't get pissy when someone doesnt try to explain themselves, He deserves to give either of you any more effort, you are just hell bent on the homo lifestyle and don't want to hear any different.
Ha ha ha! Now the real person stands up! You innocently post things and express your hope to educate people, then ignore the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, and finally expose yourself to us in the form of an anti-gay rant!

Of course we gays don't want to hear any different. We didn't ask anyone's opinions of us and we're not in need of any help. But some people do need help and should seek the proper avenue for recovery. Being gay isn't the problem. Hating yourself is.

Edit: I see you want to see if there are any ex-gays out there. That's a good starting point and I wish you well.
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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Firstly,as a gay man, I assure you that if it were possible to not be gay, there would be no gays. I would be first in line to change my sexuality if it were possible. No more having to hide my sexuality when I first meet people, no more losing 'friends' when they find out Im gay, no more talking viciously behind my back (is he or isnt he), I could have children, live unnoticed and not worried about people talking about, and I would have the same rights as anybody else. No more vicious attacks on message boards. BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Im gay and it wont change. So I have to make the most of it. be who I am and do what I do. Appreciate myself and try to forget the rest (as hard as it is)

You say you want to meet ex-gays...but how does one measure who is and who isnt a successful ex-gay? If someone looks outwardly heterosexual (married with kids) but still fantasizs about platanos hermosos are they ex-gay? Or worse still, like in the majority of cases the married guys hang around public toilets looking for action>?

What is the difference between an ex-gay and an a gay in denial? food for thought eh?
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:57 AM
 
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No I am not. I was born straight, then turned almost gay. The only difference is I caught it in time before it developed into full blown homosexuality.
This is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. How can you turn almost gay? Did you kiss some guys, everything but? Chances are that if you are into women and were also into guys that you are just BI. You shouldn't be ashamed of yourself because it is perfectly normal. I also don't think you should be on the boards making people feel bad about themselves just because of the way they were born. You may say you are trying to understand, but it looks to me like you are severely confused.

I really do think that you should get some help and I'm not trying to be mean. And please don't seek help from the clergy they are not qualified to give you psychiatric advice. I wish you all the luck and hope someday you can accept yourself and stop taking it out on others.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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You don't have to be gay, just find a woman that is compatible with you, and then pledge your fidelity to her. Don't marry the first woman you meet, and don't marry just so you can have a cover for your political career. Marry her because you love her, and hope and pray she has as much integrity as you do.
Yeah, and hope and pray she doesn't mind the fact that you are not physically attracted to her and sex is something that you clearly detest. Because that is the fair thing to do, isn't it?
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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There is no such thing as ex-gay. You may be thinking of bisexual.

You are born with your sexual orientation hard-wired into your brain and have no more choice in the temperament the Creator gave you than you do in where you are born, who your parents are, whether you are male or female, or what color your skin is.

Homosexuality, in other words, is not a "lifestyle" as you so quaintly put it, which would imply that there was a choice.

You are who you are.
I really don't agree. I think being gay is a product of a number of factors, just like various other sexual tastes. I don't think you have a choice about it, but I do think that there are both gay and straight people who might have gone the other way, if their life experiences had led them that way.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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I really don't agree. I think being gay is a product of a number of factors, just like various other sexual tastes. I don't think you have a choice about it, but I do think that there are both gay and straight people who might have gone the other way, if their life experiences had led them that way.
I love how people who are obviously not gay can form opinions and believe things on something they have never experienced or known. Its like when someone on the phone who never has seen you tries to describe your features.
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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Then don't be gay.

Free will FTW!
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: um....guess
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No I am not. I was born straight, then turned almost gay. The only difference is I caught it in time before it developed into full blown homosexuality.
I don't believe you have explained how you were "almost" gay.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Sometimes Miami sometimes Australia
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I don't believe you have explained how you were "almost" gay.
Hold on a minute, ive just put a coffee on - this is gonna be good :0

Come to think of it, what a good movie title - "Almost gay"

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Old 01-03-2009, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I really don't agree. I think being gay is a product of a number of factors, just like various other sexual tastes. I don't think you have a choice about it, but I do think that there are both gay and straight people who might have gone the other way, if their life experiences had led them that way.
I am straight and have always been, and am really not qualified to try to tell you how an individual who is gay feels or thinks. I have been married for 31 years and have three grown children.

I will say, I have a number of gay friends and I don't know any of them who would tell you anything other than what I said - You are what you are because the Creator intended for you to be that way. Bisexual, yes, straight or gay yes, totally uninterested in sex with anyone, yes, ex-gay - don't make them laugh. You may be back in the closet, but you cannot change the temperament you were given, nor should you.

If you believe that a gay individual can think or pray or undergo enough psychoanalysis or counselling to become straight, then you also believe that you (presuming you are straight) would be able to change your own sexual orientation so that you are attracted to members of your own sex.

Could you?
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