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For the same reason that they will never accept peace with any other civilized modern nation that allows religious freedom or diverse religious opinions, or allow a Muslim Apostate to live. Islam cannot stand up to criticism or critical thought. They are commanded by Islam to destroy all non-Muslims including Muslim Apostates and those who refuse to be forcibly converted. Those who think Islam is just another harmless religion are dead wrong. The war against the West and it's religious freedom and diversity has just begun and will never end as long as Islam exists.
First, Allah says to fight Jews and Christians or People of the Book in Sura 9, the historical context of which has been discussed above ("What is the purpose or goal of jihad?"):
9:29 Fight [q-t-l] against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Hilali and Khan)
Martyrs are guaranteed a fast track to Islamic paradise. Their deaths are depicted in economic terms. If they expend their lives as a living currency, Allah will exchange them for heavenly Islamic gardens.
61:10 You who believe, shall I show you a bargain that will save you from painful punishment? 11 Have faith in God and His Messenger and struggle [j-h-d] for His cause with your possessions and your persons—that is better for you, if only you knew—12 and He will forgive your sins, admit you into Gardens graced with flowing streams, into pleasant dwellings in the Gardens of Eternity. That is the supreme triumph. (Haleem)
Muslims who struggle (j-h-d) in Allah’s cause will either win the battle and live to see another day, so that they can collect some spoils of war, or they will die and have their sins forgiven and be admitted into Islamic heaven.
Christianity started in the middel east since then until now never been any
christian complained about Muslims.
But, since the westrens and europeans come all problems came.
What you said about their believes are to kill christians and jews is wrong.
Because,as I know we used to live all together
Christains, Muslims,Jews since long time without any problems,at the time of Muslims empire.
They are much peace than you know.
I think
The Israelis such we see in Gaza and Palestine is the exact terror crimes.
They do kill the christian's and muslim's kids and women in Palestine every day.
More than 660 people deid last week over 55% kids and women, and over 3100 injured.
Here are some links to show about the Israeli criminals in Gaza with human beings
Christianity started in the middel east since then until now never been any
christian complained about Muslims.
But, since the westrens and europeans come all problems came.
What you said about their believes are to kill christians and jews is wrong.
Because,as I know we used to live all together
Christains, Muslims,Jews since long time without any problems,at the time of Muslims empire.
They are much peace than you know.
I think
The Israelis such we see in Gaza and Palestine is the exact terror crimes.
They do kill the christian's and muslim's kids and women in Palestine every day.
More than 660 people deid last week over 55% kids and women, and over 3100 injured.
Here are some links to show about the Israeli criminals in Gaza with human beings
"since then until now never been any christian complained about Muslims."
...and lived.
"What you said about their believes are to kill christians and jews is wrong."
It's your book, not mine.
"More than 660 people deid last week over 55% kids and women, and over 3100 injured."
Then stop the terrorist attacks on Israeli civilians! Every single death and every single injury is the fault of Muslim terrorists. Now you want to blame the Israelis for defending themselves from constant terrorist attacks? Why? Because even over the Internet you are afraid to challenge the injustice of Islam.
They will indeed never accept peace...the want all Jews dead and US citizens who aren't muslims ...dead as well....it is sad that a group of extremists terorize so many people and raise kids to become homoside bombers....nobody ever saw the 72 virgins and I'm glad that Israel bombs the families homes to avoid the family from getting money for killing Israeli's....
Israel has a right to defend them self and their people and unless muslims don't do anything against Hamas and other terrorist groups....peace will never happen and muslims will be held accountable for supporting them.
The creation of the military base called Israel was in of itself a terrorist act, and to let that crime stand is not just an injustice against the people who lived there beforehand (mostly Arab and mostly Muslim, but also atheist, Christian, Jewish, etc), but it is an injustice against all human beings everywhere for all time!
How would you like it if some imperial superpower declared that you are now a subject of a government created for the benefit of the people who briefly had a kingdom on your land 2000 years ago?!
And the people living on that specific land are just the tip of the iceberg, because the small territorial size of Israel does not reflect its ability to project military power all over the middle east, over both the Mediterranean and the Red seas, in effect creating a choke-hold on the entire Arab and Persian civilizations! It is also the world's #3 nuclear power (in terms of warhead numbers or capability ahead of China, India, Pakistan, France, and UK), and I would say it is the one most likely to use them!
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Originally Posted by LogicIsYourFriend
I thought it was a religion of peace?
My knowledge of this subject matter is rather limited, but from what I understand that claim is based on an erroneous attribution to the etymology of the Arabic root SLM (Islam, Muslim, etc). The word for peace (salam) is related to it, but is not its origin. It derives from the word that means submission, i.e. to God. In a way this is similar to any notion of a social contract, like I believe in the non-aggression principle, but that's a subject matter for another thread.
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
They will indeed never accept peace...the want all Jews dead [...]
That hasn't been the case for the thousands of years before Zionism. Jews have thrived in Islamic Spain, for example. Jews played both sides during the crusades, but they mostly supported Muslims because the latter treated them better. Etc.
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
Israel has a right to defend [...]
No, it doesn't. Governments have no rights, individuals do, and it is the anti-Zionists (not just Muslims) who are defending themselves against Israel.
Last edited by Alex Libman; 01-07-2009 at 07:16 AM..
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