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Old 02-04-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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Why, sure they do. They have enough dems in the senate to pass the bill - however, they are looking for political cover.

As more and more details of this dem-pork bill get out, they realize just what a pickle they are in - and that's why pelosi and the house dems tried to rush this bill along, changing the rules as she goes.

Glenn Thrush's Blog: Cooper: Obama staff encouraged defiance of Pelosi - Politico.com



This is a democrat talking about his fellow dems.
No matter what they did, you'd find something to pick apart in your quest to smear everything and everyone who's not a Republican. If they railroaded over the Republican votes you'd be pissing and moaning about that. .

Ever think that, gosh, not all the Dems in the Senate might vote for the bill as is? Not all the House Dems voted for the House bill. Or in your world is everyone just automatically going to vote for it just because it comes from their party?

For some people, nothing is ever good enough I suppose
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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No matter what they did, you'd find something to pick apart in your quest to smear everything and everyone who's not a Republican. If they railroaded over the Republican votes you'd be pissing and moaning about that. .

Ever think that, gosh, not all the Dems in the Senate might vote for the bill as is? Not all the House Dems voted for the House bill. Or in your world is everyone just automatically going to vote for it just because it comes from their party?

For some people, nothing is ever good enough I suppose
The point made was an excellent one.

The Democrats are imploding before our eyes.

Either they get some controlled discipline within the party or things are gonna turn downright ugly! When liberals fight, it's not a pretty sight....


http://www.ugo.com/movies/dont-sweat-it/movies/images/borat.jpg (broken link)
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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I honestly hope this thing doesn't pass.
Your alternative would be...?
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Hutto, Tx
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a bill without immediately necessary spending in it...
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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From your link:

Rep. Jim Cooper (D-TN) "suggest[ed] the White House quietly encouraged him to buck House leadership on the stimulus.

"Cooper was one of 11 Dems to vote no -- joining every GOP House member.

"'Well, I probably shouldn’t tell you this, but I actually got some quiet encouragement from the Obama folks for what I’m doing,' said Cooper, one of about 55 House Democrats to sign a letter criticizing Speaker Nancy Pelosi for suspending normal debate and committee rules on the $819 billion package.
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Cooper, an early supporter of Obama's, referred to the House leadership repeatedly as 'old bulls' and the president as 'Barack,' said House leaders had 'pinned' Obama down by jamming pork into the bill, and expressed hope the Senate would radically revise the package."

, if kind of tattle-taley.

Obama needs to whip these babyish fools into line.
Just for the record a lot of us here in TN Faxed, emailed and called our Senators and Reps to vote against this stimulus, there's just too much crap in it the way it is and should not be passed.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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Just for the record a lot of us here in TN Faxed, emailed and called our Senators and Reps to vote against this stimulus, there's just too much crap in it the way it is and should not be passed.


Good on you! It's been happening all around the nation. Finally the American people are waking up a bit and paying attention to the foolishness being proposed.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I heard the items with issue are less than 1% of the bill.
Where have you been looking? The pork-bill is laden with the same old democrat goodies, which has nothing to do with stimulus.

Even the senate dems have admitted this bill is DOA. Why would that be?



Love this pic! So very true, too.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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If they railroaded over the Republican votes you'd be pissing and moaning about that. .
Pelosi and the house dems already did that - not allowing debate and suspending of the rules to get this porker passed in a hurry.

It seems she will be shutting out the republicans when it comes to legislation - the "new" obama post-partisanship.

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Not all the House Dems voted for the House bill.
11 voted against it.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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When liberals fight, it's not a pretty sight....
But always an entertaining one.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Here's a good cartoon: http://images.politico.com/global/09...artoon_600.jpg
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