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Boy, I am SO IMPRESSED by the litanies of these highly qualified, highly experienced right-wing bloggers. Where else would one go to get the inside scoop and the real nitty-gritty detail than to a bunch of unedited, undocumented right-wing blogs. I guess this goes to show just how utterly lost in the ozone some folks really are...
Republicans are doing the Democrats a favor by even offering alternatives.
Get serious. The behavior of the Republicans has been so disgraceful that even other Republicans now regard them with contempt. The Party of Limbaugh is imploding. Talk of a third party is superfluous at this point. The real question here is where is a second party going to come from...
Obama has to know historically undersized spending does not have desired effect. I expect him to get creative in order to boost the stimulus spending to needed levels.
The three major problems Japan had was 1) they sat there for four years denying there was a problem and hoping it would just go away 2) when they did start passing stimulus bills they were Waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy to small for Japan's economy so they ended up dribbling out lots of small bills which never really convinced private investors that big change was coming and 3) most importantly they didn't even start trying to resolve the bad debts in their banking system until SEVEN YEARS after the system went into crisis. It wasn't until 1999 that they finally instituted something similar to the resolution trust corporation like the US used to clean up the S&L scandal which happened after Reagan deregulated the S&Ls in 1982.
The lessons to take away from Japan is that 1) you MUST clean up the bad debts and shore up the banking system ASAP or else it will just fester and credit will remain tight strangling businesses. 2) doing nothing is the worst thing you can do while the second worst is doing next to nothing; make it BIG, really big, so that you actually effect public opinion and restore confidence.
So far I don't see the US doing either of those things. We're not really clearing the bad debt out of the system so the system is siezed up waiting for more shoes to drop as yet more bad debt is revealed. That's why banks aren't lending. We need a massive stimulus not of tax cuts (which don't produce much new demand) but of the government spending money to BUY things which will increase factory output. Steel, concrete, bricks, cars, lumber, ships, airplanes. That sort of stuff.
Get serious. The behavior of the Republicans has been so disgraceful that even other Republicans now regard them with contempt. The Party of Limbaugh is imploding. Talk of a third party is superfluous at this point. The real question here is where is a second party going to come from...
Amen to that brother man. The lies and obstructionism has been nothing less then disgraceful. Most Americans understand that even though the Bush 30% doesn't but then again those people refused to acknowledge what a disaster Bush & the Republican controlled Congress were for America. Right up to the end they kept spouting nonsense from their Fox News & talk radio addled brains.
The republicans won't be the ones in the crosshairs in 2010, it will be the democrats this time. And when things get worse and the stimulus and bailouts were proven useless and have only run up the deficits, the voters will either turn to independants( hopefully) or they'll swing back to the republicans who at least showed some semblance of reason in trying to turn things around. Either way the democrats will have theirs handed to them like the republican did this past election. At the very least you'll have a major shift away from the left towards conservative blue dog style democrats. Certainly thats something to look forward to.
Wow! I didn't realize that Hummers produced halons and CFC's...
So many Demmies, so little time:
The cause of ozone depletion is a combination two factors: The primary direct cause is chlorine-containing gasses, including CFCs and related halocarbons. In the presence of UV light, CL gases release chlorine atoms, which catalyze ozone destruction. Greenhouse gases (primarily CO2), deplete the layer indirectly. While there is not direct chemical reaction, the stratospheric ozone layer is extremely temperature sensitive. Increasing evidence indicates that CO2 gasses have altered the atmoshpheric temeprate band, increasing the rate at which the CL / O3 reaction occurs. Model calculations between 1970 - 1992 indicate that in the abscense of increased CO2, the ozone layer depletion would have been lower by a factor between 0.49 (high) and 0.32 (low).
The Republicans cannot afford to have the Economy turn around under Obama and the Democrats. That is why they are resisting so much. A stimulus that actually works will put the party into a very diminished state for perhaps, decades. They are fighting for their political lives, not the American people. If you don't believe that, I am sure John McCain will sell you some ocean front property in Arizona.
There is no ozone left, remember? The GOP'ers killed it with their Hummers.
You can't be that dense. The problem was CFC which were successfully banned around the world by government regulations in just about every country on Earth. And guess what? IT WORKED! Yes, the big bad government which makes you GOPers wet your pants successfully solved the ozone holes which were appearing at the poles. They're still there but they're disappearing a little bit more each year since we're no longer pumping massive amounts of CFCs into the atmosphere.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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