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Old 05-02-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/69_of_gop_voters_say_republicans_in_congress_out_o f_touch_with_the_party_base - broken link)

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Sixty-nine percent (69%) say congressional Republicans have lost touch with GOP voters throughout the nation. These findings are virtually unchanged from a survey just after Election Day.

Among all voters, 73% say Republicans in Congress have lost touch with the GOP base.

Seventy-two percent (72%) of Republicans say it is more important for the GOP to stand for what it believes in than for the party to work with President Obama. Twenty-two percent (22%) want their party to work with the President more.
This does not mean becoming dem-lites.

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In January, 56% of all voters said the Republican Party should return to the views and values of President Ronald Reagan to be successful. Eighty-five percent (85%) of Republican voters agreed.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:44 PM
 
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Rasmussen Reports™: The Most Comprehensive Public Opinion Data Anywhere (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics2/69_of_gop_voters_say_republicans_in_congress_out_o f_touch_with_the_party_base - broken link)



This does not mean becoming dem-lites.

Looks like you got a little conflicted about posting this thread.

So, what does it mean Sanrene? The GOP representatives aren't crazy enough?
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:46 PM
 
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I love how Rasmussen is used as the standard by the anti-Obama crowd. It's the one poll that is biased toward their side. Not even Fox News polls give them the results they want anymore.

You've got to look at an average of all polls if you want more a more definitive picture of what's going on.

Pollster.com - 2008 Election Polls, Trends, Charts and Analysis
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:48 PM
 
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Seems like they have a learning disability. They want to go back to the good ol' days but those days CREATED today. Do they want to make the same mistakes because they don't like the ones being made now under different leadership?

None of this is a solution. Been there, done that. The conservatives need to offer something that works and not conveniently erase recent history to justify more of the same.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The conservatives need to offer something that works and not conveniently erase recent history to justify more of the same.
Bush was a liberal as far as the eye could see, so when you blame Bush, you blame liberals.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:01 PM
 
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Bush was a liberal as far as the eye could see, so when you blame Bush, you blame liberals.
Oh my god... And down is up and up is down.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Oh my god... And down is up and up is down.
What about his insane spending policies was conservative?

Other than talking a big game about abortion and stem cells, I don't think you can come up with any sort of evidence he was actually conservative.

Hint: War is a liberal philosophy
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:16 PM
 
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What about his insane spending policies was conservative?

Other than talking a big game about abortion and stem cells, I don't think you can come up with any sort of evidence he was actually conservative.

Hint: War is a liberal philosophy
Interesting. The polls showed that most Republicans approved of the job he was doing up until the last year.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm an anti-war conservative...I wish some GOP leaders would listen to how the majority of us feel.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:26 PM
 
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Kind of what many of us have been saying for a long time, that today's GOP bears no resemblance to the great days of the past, when truly outstanding men led the way (Goldwater, Eisenhower, Dirksen, Lodge, Nelson Rockefeller, Buckley, et al).

The days are long gone when GOP leaders considered it was elemental to do family planning and not bring forth a child one could not support (Goldwater was PROUD that his wife worked for Planned Parenthood).

The days are long gone when the GOP's love of higher learning and intellectualism were not dismissed in favor of the mythology of religion as worshiped by masses of barely literate racist rednecks.

Reagan was okay in my book, I voted for him twice, and I voted for John Warner many times too, and sent John money. Reagan looks good now primarily for three reasons: (1) People remember him; (2) He was a good speaker, not a doofus like Bush or a bully like Cheney; and (3) Reagan looks like a gentle fatherly saint compared to the horror of the past 8 years.

The GOP of my childhood is gone. It has been largely replaced by a mob of unruly, stupid, hypocritical, bible thumping yahoo's who are bent on dominating the nation and forcing a theocracy on us. Not if I can help it.

I saw a stat the other day that broke down the voting public this way:
- 36% Independent
- 34% Democrat
- 30% Republican

IMO, there IS a third party out there - now. A party of the center that does not self-identify with the wingnuts of the GOP right or the extreme what-evers of a DEM left wing. I really cannot discern a notable sentiment these days on the far left. IMO, the old FAR left is as dead and gone as the Great Society, Welfare liberals, et al, it's hard to find anyone clamoring for that stuff as party platform.

IMO, both extremes are out of touch. The extreme right is easily defined, we see them clearly as the wingnuts they are. I've a hard time figuring out just what the extreme left even looks like these days, unless that's Nader's bunch in the Green Party.

I've said it many times, the great strength of this nation is in the center. Nixon played it like a fiddle with his "Silent Majority" focus. Bill Clinton played the center and by doing so he kept close to a 60% approval rating.

Obama is playing the center, leading from the center and pulling high numbers. The more the GOP says NO to reasonable plans and words from Obama, the more out of touch they will appear to everyone, even their own.

Meanwhile, the stats in the OP make my eyes cross as the first one and the third one seem to work at cross purposes. The real issue in the quoted material is this: "72% of Republicans say it is more important for the GOP to stand for what it believes in than for the party to work with President Obama." That means to me that 72% of GOP voters want their GOP reps to say NO to everything Obama tries to do, and indeed so, the GOP reps are voting NO to almost every bill this year. Thus it would appear that the GOP reps ARE standing up for "what the GOP stands for" but if thats the case, why do 69% of GOP voters also say their GOP reps are out of touch?

This then begs a 2-part question: (1) Just what DOES the GOP stand for these days, or should stand for; and (2) if 69% of our GOP reps are out of touch by saying NO to Obama on everything, what should they be doing?
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