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nah, he needs to prove to me that all goverment workers outside of the military can make a living without stealing any money (taxes) from the people.
You hadn't specified government workers but even so, I have known many, and I can say they worked and worked hard(I can also say I've known many that even admitted themselves that they did little)
You hadn't specified government workers but even so, I have known many, and I can say they worked and worked hard(I can also say I've known many that even admitted themselves that they did little)
goverment workers as in any that get a paycheck that is paid for by the tax payers in the form of the goverment stealing money from the people to pay them.
What interests me is the fact that wages have not gone up since the 70s and the rich are getting richer off blue collar workers and others. If not taxing the rich really worked then why are middle and lower classes getting poorer and poorer? Why didn't these rich people raise the wages of people under them? Instead of hiring them for low wages or worse yet hiring illegals and or taking jobs overseas to get cheap labor. Instead we have greed. And now people are complaining about the U.S. becoming a socialist country. If Capitalism had worked we would not be in this mess, and when Capitalism begins to fail countries turn socialist. Now I am not talking about the Communist countries of Russia or China because they are not true socialists since they are totaliatarian governments. I am talking about true socialism, where everyone has a roof over their head, a job, medical care, and a higher education.
goverment workers as in any that get a paycheck that is paid for by the tax payers in the form of the goverment stealing money from the people to pay them.
I wish I had known what you really meant.
I wouldn't have even bothered to reply to a statement like that at all.
As long as we're going to get all anecdotal, I've had extensive experience with and within both public sector and private sector bureaucracies over the years, and from my experience, compared to their public sector counterparts, private sector bureaucracies are bastions of corruption, incompetence, and inefficiency. To grossly over-generalize for purposes of brevity, the mid-level private sector environment is typified by your 2.5-to-3.0 GPA guys who specialized in schmoozing in school and think mostly about themselves, while at the same level in the public sector are your 3.5-to-4.0 GPA types who actually focussed on academics when they had that chance and think mostly about the job. They know they'll never get rich working for the government, but they are willing to trade down on the income scale in order to move up on the quality-of-work scale. Your mileage may vary, of course, but my impressions are that the sterotypes of so-called bureaucrats and so-called businessmen are both sadly and seriously misdrawn...
Yeah, Cuba is definitely the model that we wish to emulate. I was planning on moving to that great nation because it is perhaps the most socialist in the world right now. I can't imagine why the whole world can't be as enlightened as this tiny nation
goverment workers as in any that get a paycheck that is paid for by the tax payers in the form of the goverment stealing money from the people to pay them.
In the same sense that the grocery store "steals" all that money from you at the end of the checkout line each week in order to pay their suppliers and employees...
Does anyone else find it offensive when people talk about not wanting to raise taxes on the rich (I'll use 1 million+ per year for my definitiion of rich) because it's "taking away their hard earned money"?
The very rich do not earn their money in the same sense that average americans do. You all should know this by now! The very rich need only leverage their capital in the correct ways to increase their wealth, no true work is required.
The average person doesn't get paid if they aren't producing goods or performing services. They are the backbone of the economy, the creators of all the wealth. The rich have nothing without them.
It's offensive to the people who do the real work in this country, the teachers, drywall hangers, doctors, concrete pourers, road maintenance crews, computer programmers, bus drivers, loggers, carpet installers, anything you see on Dirty Jobs, etc. etc. etc. to compare the money they give their all for- to money made by simply leveraging capital, no work required!
It's also offensive to imply that a CEO's time is worth 400 times more than the average worker.
The way to get rich in this country is to start your own business. It's next to impossible to get truly rich through your labor alone. If you're a janitor, cleaning office buildings by yourself will only get you so far, one person can only do so much. The way to get rich is to start getting others to work for you! Pay them a wage and profit off every building they clean. Expand. Eventually, you will get to the point where you have 10 janitors working for you, and you will no longer have to do any cleaning yourself! Manage and grow the business for a few years, and then sell to a competitor for a nice cash out. You are now rich. If you are smart, you are now aggressively investing. Buy an office building to lease out (you don't have to deal with it, just hire a management company to handle the details). Give control of your money to the right people, and it will now grow on it's own. You've reached critical mass. Congratulations, you worked hard and smart and played the game well. and you've earned a nice big house and the car you've always wanted. Enjoy your life of leisure, we might be a little jealous, but we're not mad at ya.
Becoming rich is fine, but once you make it please remember that there are others working much harder than you are, for much less money, and it would only be fair for you to pay your fair share of taxes on the money that is now funneling into your bank account like magic. Especially considering the only reason your CarpetWorld inc. stock has money to pay you dividends is because Jim the carpet installer (making 35k) just finished on a 4 bedroom. You've earned your slice of the pie, but please don't get greedy and try to eat the whole thing, the little guy deserves more than crumbs.
Does anyone not agree that there is a distinction between hard earned money and capital gains?
Congratulations on your lack of success. The difference between the wealthy and those that complain about the wealthy is lack of ambition and petty jealousy.
You can make as much money as you want in this world. They're leveraging their money now because they EARNED it to begin with. Once you make money, it's very easy to use it to make more.
Or you could whine and complain about it and see where that gets you in life.
Congratulations on your lack of success. The difference between the wealthy and those that complain about the wealthy is lack of ambition and petty jealousy.
You can make as much money as you want in this world. They're leveraging their money now because they EARNED it to begin with. Once you make money, it's very easy to use it to make more.
Or you could whine and complain about it and see where that gets you in life.
That was simple, straight-forward and to the point...and dead ass right on the money (excuse the pun)!
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