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Old 03-03-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.

The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
They say we should not help those with mortgage problems because they bought more house than they could afford or that they are just bullshi**ers abusing the system.
Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc. They blame Freddie and Fannie for giving loans to "unqualified" people who can't afford the loans, and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Conservatives say,"oh they should have known better than to take that loan, or the should have done their research". Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note. I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves. Remember, home ownership is one of the best ways to acquire and sustain wealth, some republicans do not want this for certain people it seems.
The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office. What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to? have the millions upon millions of dollars lost and the fraudulent, inflated numbers they posted as profits and returns helped kill the market? Not if you ask conservatives/repubs, they say it's all Pres. Obamma's fault.
They tow the line of " the wealthy creates jobs and money flows down to the middle class" but CEO's lay off thousands, send job overseas for which they receive tax breaks from repub lawmakers and then they say "small business" is the backbone of America, yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state. Sounds like real socialism to me.
They seem to be saying *** everyone who doesn't have it as good as I have.
Your union job got sent overseas *** you you should have went to college, your job got eliminated *** you, you didn't deserve to make that much anyway, the unions artificially inflated your worth you should have never been a middle class worker and living in my neighborhood.
The countriy is in shambles Pres. Obamma is trying to turn this economy around,*** him, he's a Muslim, socialist, idiot, non-citizen, and Rush said he should fail in his policies to help the country.
*** Obamma (not President Obamma) he's bankrupting the country, it doesn't matter Pres. Bush has us fighting two illegal wars and hid the true dollar cost, pallets of millions in cash went overseas and just disappeared, no bid contracts for his best friends that totals hundreds of millions gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions.
The cons/Repubs seem hellbent on two things, totally undermining the President of the United States of America and ignoring the fact the the state of the country is in large part to their ideology of screw the less affluent and stack the deck for the wealthy.
I could have been more precise on some issues but I can see this post is much too long and I was typing as things came to mind.
What a great post and very much truth to it. Do not underestimate the hate regardless of what is said here. The truth is that our faux conservatives are merely sheep socialy engineered by the Reagan myth. Their egos are massaged and false beliefs reenforced by the loads of liars in the media and talk radio. All you have to do to see where their hate and blindness comes from is listen to conservative talk radio. You will find its usually a middle aged angry white man yelling into the microphone about the liberals are traitors and are trying to destroy this country and must be stopped at all cost. After that all they have to do is paint someone as a liberal and their ground work goes into effect.

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Old 03-03-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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The best part is that their attacks are not working. His poll numbers are as high as they ever were and the GOP's polling numbers are as low as the ever were.

The right wing today is a one trick pony.....The ONLY thing they know how to do is attack anything and everthing.

People have wised up....they know these are serious times and more serious people tend to shy away from the same right wing B.S they've been hearing for years.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Actually Bush is being blamed for those things. You talk about calling the president names, what do you think the Democrats did the past 8 years? Bush was referred to as the 'village idiot', 'baby killer', stupid, dumb, idiotic; He had his own damn cartoon making fun of him and his presidency; American Dad, Family Guy, South Park, and a plethora of other shows have shown flat out hatred, and now it is being called disrespect??

Bush is taking the blame for unemployment, stock market failure, bank failure, and these bailouts, NOT Obama. Hell, just a few days ago it was referred to as the 'Bush Recession'. So Obama has not been blamed, it is in fact the so called 'minority' Republicans who are taking the heat so that the Democrats can score PR points.

Here is a term I would like for you to learn:


I would rather have opposition than blind faith.
Your blind I never saw endless rants about ridiculous topics like where he took his wife to dinner for valentines dinner.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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interesting that you are just attacking his grammar. lol

so i suppose only the retards in the world get it wrong all the time. he has no point at all.

that's brilliant of you.
Um, no, I pointed out the misspellings, expletives, lack of form (in other words, no paragraphs, lack of flow and cohesion, and faulty thesis), AND grammar.

You see, here in the REAL world, if something is rife with errors and takes great effort to read, people don't take it seriously -- if they bother to read it at all. Again, this is a good example of astonishingly low standards among that ilk.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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It is posts like these....

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What a great post and very much truth to it. Do not underestimate the hate regardless of what is said here. The truth is that our fayx conservatives are merely sheep socialy engineered by the Reagan myth. Their egos are massaged and false beliefs reenforced by the loads of liars in the media and talk radio. All you have to do to see where their hate and blindness comes from is listen to conservative talk radio. You will find its usually a middle angry white man yelling into the microphone about the liberals are traitors and are trying to destroy this country and must be stopped at all cost. After that all they have to do is paint someone as a liberal and their ground work goes into effect.
....That makes me believe the movie "Idiocracy" is an accurate depiction of the future.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:14 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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It is posts like these....



....That makes me believe the movie "Idiocracy" is an accurate depiction of the future.
I see it happening with our guys across the aisle, yourself included. You still believe Reagan was a conservative.
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:23 PM
 
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a middle aged angry white man
Alright. You brought race into it. And what's wrong with that? You have a problem with middle-aged white men? What is that problem?

Or are you just another bigot who thinks the world should let it slide?
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:27 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Alright. You brought race into it. And what's wrong with that? You have a problem with middle-aged white men? What is that problem?

Or are you just another bigot who thinks the world should let it slide?
Awe but hurt Martell? Its the truth, and I know there are some that don't meet the stereo type like Laura Ingrahm (an angry middle aged woman)!
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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I see it happening with our guys across the aisle, yourself included. You still believe Reagan was a conservative.
Reagan was a Conservative, he lead the Conservative resurgence that died in the 1920s. Domestically he was the textbook definition of a fiscal Conservative, but obviously his militaristic side cancelled out that aspect of his presidency.

I suspect that you are trying to work in a cleverly hidden personal attack. However, my stances remains the same; if you arguement has potential, you should not need to result to personal attacks in order to gain ground... But then again who cares. In the words of my generation, up yours!
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Reagan was a Conservative, he lead the Conservative resurgence that died in the 1920s. Domestically he was the textbook definition of a fiscal Conservative, but obviously his militaristic side cancelled out that aspect of his presidency.

I suspect that you are trying to work in a cleverly hidden personal attack. However, my stances remains the same; if you arguement has potential, you should not need to result to personal attacks in order to gain ground... But then again who cares. In the words of my generation, up yours!
Describe a fiscal conservative since you just contradicted yourself.
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