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Old 03-03-2009, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.

The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
They say we should not help those with mortgage problems because they bought more house than they could afford or that they are just bullshi**ers abusing the system.
Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc. They blame Freddie and Fannie for giving loans to "unqualified" people who can't afford the loans, and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Conservatives say,"oh they should have known better than to take that loan, or the should have done their research". Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note. I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves. Remember, home ownership is one of the best ways to acquire and sustain wealth, some republicans do not want this for certain people it seems.
The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office. What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to? have the millions upon millions of dollars lost and the fraudulent, inflated numbers they posted as profits and returns helped kill the market? Not if you ask conservatives/repubs, they say it's all Pres. Obamma's fault.
They tow the line of " the wealthy creates jobs and money flows down to the middle class" but CEO's lay off thousands, send job overseas for which they receive tax breaks from repub lawmakers and then they say "small business" is the backbone of America, yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state. Sounds like real socialism to me.
They seem to be saying *** everyone who doesn't have it as good as I have.
Your union job got sent overseas *** you you should have went to college, your job got eliminated *** you, you didn't deserve to make that much anyway, the unions artificially inflated your worth you should have never been a middle class worker and living in my neighborhood.
The countriy is in shambles Pres. Obamma is trying to turn this economy around,*** him, he's a Muslim, socialist, idiot, non-citizen, and Rush said he should fail in his policies to help the country.
*** Obamma (not President Obamma) he's bankrupting the country, it doesn't matter Pres. Bush has us fighting two illegal wars and hid the true dollar cost, pallets of millions in cash went overseas and just disappeared, no bid contracts for his best friends that totals hundreds of millions gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions.
The cons/Repubs seem hellbent on two things, totally undermining the President of the United States of America and ignoring the fact the the state of the country is in large part to their ideology of screw the less affluent and stack the deck for the wealthy.
I could have been more precise on some issues but I can see this post is much too long and I was typing as things came to mind.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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They just want to bash, they dont want to think.

Great post btw.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.
Actually Bush is being blamed for those things. You talk about calling the president names, what do you think the Democrats did the past 8 years? Bush was referred to as the 'village idiot', 'baby killer', stupid, dumb, idiotic; He had his own damn cartoon making fun of him and his presidency; American Dad, Family Guy, South Park, and a plethora of other shows have shown flat out hatred, and now it is being called disrespect??

Bush is taking the blame for unemployment, stock market failure, bank failure, and these bailouts, NOT Obama. Hell, just a few days ago it was referred to as the 'Bush Recession'. So Obama has not been blamed, it is in fact the so called 'minority' Republicans who are taking the heat so that the Democrats can score PR points.

Here is a term I would like for you to learn:
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Hypocrisy is acting in a manner contradictory to one's professed beliefs and feelings, or conversely, expressing false beliefs and opinions in order to conceal one's real feelings or motives.[1][2] For example, a smoker would be hypocritical if he or she were to criticize someone else for smoking cigarettes. The term hypocrisy is often used in a religious context to refer to someone who gives a false appearance of virtue or religion, or does not "practice what he or she preaches". Psychologically, hypocrisy can be an unconscious act of self-deception.
I would rather have opposition than blind faith.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Actually Bush is being blamed for those things. You talk about calling the president names, what do you think the Democrats did the past 8 years? Bush was referred to as the 'village idiot', 'baby killer', stupid, dumb, idiotic; He had his own damn cartoon making fun of him and his presidency; American Dad, Family Guy, South Park, and a plethora of other shows have shown flat out hatred, and now it is being called disrespect??

Bush is taking the blame for unemployment, stock market failure, bank failure, and these bailouts, NOT Obama. Hell, just a few days ago it was referred to as the 'Bush Recession'. So Obama has not been blamed, it is in fact the so called 'minority' Republicans who are taking the heat so that the Democrats can score PR points.

Here is a term I would like for you to learn:


I would rather have opposition than blind faith.
Thanks, you saved me a lot of time.



A couple of notes to the OP:

It's TOE the line, not tow.

Rush said he hopes O's policies to socialize the nation fail.
The driveby media deliberately misquote and misinterpret this. (Perhaps you should listen to him sometime.)
That's SOP for guys who say: "My job is to ensure this guy succeeds" while "he sends shivers up my leg."
Thank you Chris Matthews, possibly the most delusional in a crowded field. A reporter? hahahahahahaha
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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I shall rebutt:

1. Every mortgage comes with a complete disclosure courtesy of the Truth-in-Lending act. It clearly states the type of loan, maturity date, amount financed, and total cost of financing.

2. Every borrower is given a copy of their credit report.

3. Both Reagan and Bush advocated homeownership. This seems to contradict your assertion that the GOP wanted to corner the market.

4. Caveat emptor. I trust the average banker or broker about as much as I trust a politician of any party.

5. There is credible evidence that Madoff is a Democrat. With respect to the world's largest Ponzi scheme, Social Security is a Democratic program also.

Link you naysayers:

Senate Democrats May Return Thousands In Madoff Contributions


6. There is a video of Raines, Frank and other powerful Democrats testifying to Congress how bundling these mortgages will help reduce the risk to investors, thereby justifying the increased risk to lenders. This was their solution, and they enacted legislation which allowed it to happen.

7. From my viewpoint, Obama could worship Allah or the Great Pumpkin. His religion is a non-issue to me.

8. Economies change. Nations change. The world changes. The smart people recognize this and change themselves. Thirty years ago companies had secretaries and typewriters. Today we have computers and MS word. Nothing prevents a company from using a typewriter if they choose to. Well, except competition. Thirty years ago China was 1 billion peasants. India was 700 million peasants. Singapore, South Korea, Africa...they all were in their infancy. The US, Japan, Germany, and Taiwann lead the world in manufacturing technology. That changed.

I find it perplexing that the Democrats, the party of inclusion, anti-poverty, anti-discrimination, human rights and Kumbaya oppose outsourcing when it has done more to advance the well-being of humans as a whole than every Democratic program ever conceived or instituted. The standard of living in China has skyrocketed. All across Asia, in fact. Is this not what the Democrats stand for, or is just a case of "not in my backyard"?

Peace.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Great post? Heh. It's a giant rant with no form; a stream of consciousness complete with expletives, poor grammar, and misspellings. Its title contains that ever-popular, childish H-word tossed out recklessly by adolescents and usually followed by shrieks of "It's not faaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrr!"

Dem. World has such low standards of "greatness."
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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hmm..be careful. your post was too real and honest.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:33 PM
 
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Great post? Heh. It's a giant rant with no form; a stream of consciousness complete with expletives, poor grammar, and misspellings. Its title contains that ever-popular, childish H-word tossed out recklessly by adolescents and usually followed by shrieks of "It's not faaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrr!"

Dem. World has such low standards of "greatness."
interesting that you are just attacking his grammar. lol

so i suppose only the retards in the world get it wrong all the time. he has no point at all.

that's brilliant of you.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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interesting that you are just attacking his grammar. lol

so i suppose only the retards in the world get it wrong all the time. he has no point at all.

that's brilliant of you.
I'd be glad to attack his grampa, but I don't think gramps is part of this discussion.


There is quite a difference between mental retardation or developmental disabilities, and the inability to wrote coherent sentences. Or paragraphs.

But that's one reason the word rant was invented.
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Southern California Mountains
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The tea parties in San Diego had to do with the state increasing taxes more than anything.

The anti-tax rallies coming up this weekend have nothing to do with the federal level.

How is that an insult to Obama?
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