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Old 03-04-2009, 12:02 AM
 
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I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.

The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
They say we should not help those with mortgage problems because they bought more house than they could afford or that they are just bullshi**ers abusing the system.
Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc. They blame Freddie and Fannie for giving loans to "unqualified" people who can't afford the loans, and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Conservatives say,"oh they should have known better than to take that loan, or the should have done their research". Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note. I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves. Remember, home ownership is one of the best ways to acquire and sustain wealth, some republicans do not want this for certain people it seems.
The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office. What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to? have the millions upon millions of dollars lost and the fraudulent, inflated numbers they posted as profits and returns helped kill the market? Not if you ask conservatives/repubs, they say it's all Pres. Obamma's fault.
They tow the line of " the wealthy creates jobs and money flows down to the middle class" but CEO's lay off thousands, send job overseas for which they receive tax breaks from repub lawmakers and then they say "small business" is the backbone of America, yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state. Sounds like real socialism to me.
They seem to be saying *** everyone who doesn't have it as good as I have.
Your union job got sent overseas *** you you should have went to college, your job got eliminated *** you, you didn't deserve to make that much anyway, the unions artificially inflated your worth you should have never been a middle class worker and living in my neighborhood.
The countriy is in shambles Pres. Obamma is trying to turn this economy around,*** him, he's a Muslim, socialist, idiot, non-citizen, and Rush said he should fail in his policies to help the country.
*** Obamma (not President Obamma) he's bankrupting the country, it doesn't matter Pres. Bush has us fighting two illegal wars and hid the true dollar cost, pallets of millions in cash went overseas and just disappeared, no bid contracts for his best friends that totals hundreds of millions gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions.
The cons/Repubs seem hellbent on two things, totally undermining the President of the United States of America and ignoring the fact the the state of the country is in large part to their ideology of screw the less affluent and stack the deck for the wealthy.
I could have been more precise on some issues but I can see this post is much too long and I was typing as things came to mind.
Excellent and truthful post. No matter how much the teeth-gnashing, apoplectic neo-cons try to spin it in their mockery and so-called "rebuttals." They have nothing to offer in the way of solutions (other than cut taxes for the upper 5%), and their party is falling apart. The privileged don't like it when the masses get uppity. And the not-so-rich Republican base takes its talking points from Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity, so what do you expect? The latest polls show that 84% of Americans are willing to give President Obama a chance. He has the highest favorability rating after 6 weeks in office than any other President in the last century. His plan might not work, but it might work. The Republicans have no plan, and since we're in this mess in large part because of them, it's not like the American people put a lot of stock in what they have to say at this point (other than the 25% who do listen to them). They're too busy going publicly insane, anyway.

Good post.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Watch the folks at a McCain or Palin campaign rally if you wanna' see an "ilk."
Sorry, it's over. No more McCain rallies. No more McCain campaign supporters to which you can point. It's ALL Obamanation now and the lengths to which Obamaphiles will go in propping up their hero will continue to befuddle the rest of us.

And the government is run by the Democrats. You can't point fingers at Congress or the President -- they're all on the same team. And if Obama can't control a Congress run by his own party then he is even more ineffectual than anticipated.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:06 AM
 
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Oh, I have no doubt that Product Zero and his associates will be dragging out as much blame as they can heap upon Bush as they proceed to wreck the economy and loot future generations with their wasteful spending and regulation.
Almost every single Constitutional Law professor in this country is positively amazed by what is in those memos. Perhaps the Constitution means nothing to you, and you think Bush is just a great guy in the shredding room. And--wasteful spending and regulation? You mean the 50% of earmarks requested by Republicans? Or do you mean the more-than-one-trillion-dollar deficit left by Bush? There are different kinds of "spending"--an important subtlety that clearly escapes you.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:08 AM
 
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I have recently seen so many posts blaming President Barrack Hussein Obamma for everything from the fall of the stock market to the next attack on the country. Conservatives/Republicans are having "tea parties" and Governors signing "succession" bills.
I have never witnessed such disrespect for the office of President and the man occupying that office, these people feel it is completely acceptable to call the President "idiot, Nobamma,stupid, dumb", and other more foul names.

The root of all the hate seems to be that these people hate to see the government help other Americans in need.
They say we should not help those with mortgage problems because they bought more house than they could afford or that they are just bullshi**ers abusing the system.
Yet they turn their backs and refuse to acknowledge they many honest people have lost jobs, a spouse, had hours reduced, etc. They blame Freddie and Fannie for giving loans to "unqualified" people who can't afford the loans, and again, ignore the predators that focused on the urban population with predatory and deceptive loans. These people could afford a $700.00 mortgage but how many were told that that would increase ti $1400.00 in three years, or better yet that they could refi for a better interest rate other than the 11.9% they were given only to find no one would refi them.
Conservatives say,"oh they should have known better than to take that loan, or the should have done their research". Well many of these people trusted the mortgage companies and did not feel they were being robbed in order to share in the American dream.
Conservatives never apply this line of reasoning to those who lost life savings and other monies to the ponzi criminals on wall st. They never say "oh those people got what they deserved, the should have researched his background, or they should have known you could never legally get this kind of return on your investment".
They ignore the fact that republicans called for less regulation on wall street and it was this that allowed "mortgage brokers" to resale mortgages five times over increasing the monthly payment of someone who they knew could lest afford the ever increasing note. I suspect they also hate the fact that Americans they historically saw as "unqualified" were now partaking at a table they wanted reserved for themselves. Remember, home ownership is one of the best ways to acquire and sustain wealth, some republicans do not want this for certain people it seems.
The President is being blamed for a stock market well into decline before he ever stepped foot into office. What party do the Ponzi scam artist belong to? have the millions upon millions of dollars lost and the fraudulent, inflated numbers they posted as profits and returns helped kill the market? Not if you ask conservatives/repubs, they say it's all Pres. Obamma's fault.
They tow the line of " the wealthy creates jobs and money flows down to the middle class" but CEO's lay off thousands, send job overseas for which they receive tax breaks from repub lawmakers and then they say "small business" is the backbone of America, yet who can afford to purchase anything when the con/repubs want to kill every union which is the major reason for the level of middle class jobs in the country and have everyone making $10.00 in a "right to work" state. Sounds like real socialism to me.
They seem to be saying *** everyone who doesn't have it as good as I have.
Your union job got sent overseas *** you you should have went to college, your job got eliminated *** you, you didn't deserve to make that much anyway, the unions artificially inflated your worth you should have never been a middle class worker and living in my neighborhood.
The countriy is in shambles Pres. Obamma is trying to turn this economy around,*** him, he's a Muslim, socialist, idiot, non-citizen, and Rush said he should fail in his policies to help the country.
*** Obamma (not President Obamma) he's bankrupting the country, it doesn't matter Pres. Bush has us fighting two illegal wars and hid the true dollar cost, pallets of millions in cash went overseas and just disappeared, no bid contracts for his best friends that totals hundreds of millions gave multiple tax breaks to wealthy corporations and wealthy people and did all in his power to destroy the middle class and unions.
The cons/Repubs seem hellbent on two things, totally undermining the President of the United States of America and ignoring the fact the the state of the country is in large part to their ideology of screw the less affluent and stack the deck for the wealthy.
I could have been more precise on some issues but I can see this post is much too long and I was typing as things came to mind.


You have never seen such disrespect for the President? Where were you the last 8 years, under a rock? GW Bush was disrespected worse than any president in my memory. It's a tough job, but Obama and Bush both asked for it and they should be able to handle the criticism...it goes with the territory. I think your ideal that all Republicans or conservatives are the rich is dead wrong. They are just people that believe in working for what you have and that everyone has to be responsible for themselves. I know it is an old fashioned idea, but it used to be honorable to think like that.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:08 AM
 
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Almost every single Constitutional Law professor in this country is positively amazed by what is in those memos.
Did you poll them all?
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:10 AM
 
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Sorry, it's over. No more McCain rallies. No more McCain campaign supporters to which you can point. It's ALL Obamanation now and the lengths to which Obamaphiles will go in propping up their hero will continue to befuddle the rest of us.

And the government is run by the Democrats. You can't point fingers at Congress or the President -- they're all on the same team. And if Obama can't control a Congress run by his own party then he is even more ineffectual than anticipated.
Sorry, it's over--and your guy lost. Get over it. "Obamanation" and "Obamaphiles"--all creations of the the wingnut right. Obama could fu*king walk on water, and you'd all still be writhing with hatred.

Obama is doing just fine "controlling" the Democrats in Congress. Sorry the same can't be said of the Republicans--who are in meltdown as I write. If you're "befuddled," maybe it would be a good idea to turn off FOX News every once in a while.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:13 AM
 
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You have never seen such disrespect for the President? Where were you the last 8 years, under a rock? GW Bush was disrespected worse than any president in my memory. It's a tough job, but Obama and Bush both asked for it and they should be able to handle the criticism...it goes with the territory. I think your ideal that all Republicans or conservatives are the rich is dead wrong. They are just people that believe in working for what you have and that everyone has to be responsible for themselves. I know it is an old fashioned idea, but it used to be honorable to think like that.
Yeah, because Bush DESERVED IT. He nearly DESTROYED our economy. And given what is coming out in the news now, it's even worse than we imagined.

You need to wake up.

And Republicans have no corner on the belief in working for what you have and for people being responsible for themselves. The difference is that the Republicans (or the current incarnation of those who call themselves Republicans) don't give a good godda*n about the poor or the weak, or the American worker. Brutal, self-serving, punitive, "Christian" pieces of sh*t. Good riddance.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:15 AM
 
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You have never seen such disrespect for the President? Where were you the last 8 years, under a rock? GW Bush was disrespected worse than any president in my memory. It's a tough job, but Obama and Bush both asked for it and they should be able to handle the criticism...it goes with the territory. I think your ideal that all Republicans or conservatives are the rich is dead wrong. They are just people that believe in working for what you have and that everyone has to be responsible for themselves. I know it is an old fashioned idea, but it used to be honorable to think like that.
lemme guess, you are one of those brilliant conservatives. you probably hurrah about bringing jobs back to america without realizing your party is fiscally against it. lol
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:16 AM
 
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And Republicans have no corner on the belief in working for what you have and for people being responsible for themselves. The difference is that the Republicans (or the current incarnation of those who call themselves Republicans) don't give a good godda*n about the poor or the weak, or the American worker. Brutal, self-serving, punitive, "Christian" pieces of sh*t. Good riddance.
^^ Look everyone, this guys having a meltdown. Woohoo!
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:18 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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They just want to bash, they dont want to think.

Great post btw.
Yep, and his post is great.
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