Obama now admits using mortgage crisis to impose socialism (Iraq, legal, soldiers)
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Guess what right wingers america isn't buying this socialist rhetoric. So why are you continuing to margenlize your own party?
I would not say he is a socialist, but America has once again bought a load of crap....just from a different batch. I wonder if enough of us will ever wake up and stop voting in these imbeciles from both parties. I hope to see a viable 3rd party in my lifetime as I have absolutely had it with the two dominating forces we currently have.
I would not say he is a socialist, but America has once again bought a load of crap....just from a different batch. I wonder if enough of us will ever wake up and stop voting in these imbeciles from both parties. I hope to see a viable 3rd party in my lifetime as I have absolutely had it with the two dominating forces we currently have.
In total agreement. However, for not being a Socialist he does a good job "playing one on TV."
What astounds me is that these neo-con, Limbaugh-following idiots have no idea that they are being used. The Republican Party has no ideas of its own and is being run underground by extraordinarily wealthy neo-cons who have a stake in the status quo. As a result, there is an enormous, nationwide proliferation of scurrilous websites, radio shows, and talk shows--all of whose main objective is to disseminate misinformation and fear among its base, through out-and-out lies and slander. And then they send their little marketing gremlins onto sites like these to continue the work. And if you think they don't, you're incredibly naive. My husband is a professor of media studies, and sending out shadow operatives--lol--online is standard in this day and age. Because the Republicans lost the election, and are in danger of fatally losing in 2010, there are more than usual.
I didn't read anything in that story that supports the OP's opinion, or especially its title.
Sorry, I guess I'm not the type that sees terrorists around every corner, aliens in the sky, the Virgin Mary on toast, nor communists under the bed.
Seriously. People have been screaming of a socialist takeover since at least the '50s, and it's never happened. It's never going to happen. It can't happen.
BHO is a socialist as were all presidents since 1935. Whether you know it or not, there was a socialist revolution in 1935, that eradicated private property rights and substituted collective ownership.
Since it was done by consent (fraudulently), it might be useful to review some basic concepts that "Socialist Studies" omits in these united States.
America's republican form of government, in which the people are sovereign is in harmony with capitalism. But let us be clear on what capitalism really means.
CAPITALISM - An economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are privately owned and operated for private profit.
- - - Webster's Dictionary
A farmer who owns his farm enjoys capitalism. A farmer who does not is a tenant.
A laborer who owns the fruits of his labor enjoys capitalism. A laborer who does not is a serf.
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
If you concatenate capitalism with private property, you can see the "inconvenient truth".
Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production, distribution and exchange are absolutely owned by individuals and operated for their individual profit.
Anything else is NOT capitalism, including usury (which likes to call its nefarious scheme "capitalizing") and limited liability artificial persons (stock corporations).
In American law, we know that the constitutional government has promised to secure private property rights.
Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
From the Communist manifesto:
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
COMMUNISM - the ownership of property, or means of production, distribution and supply, by the whole of a classless society, with wealth shared on the principle of 'to each according to his need', each yielding fully 'according to his ability'.
- - - Webster's Dictionary.
SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and control of distribution. It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and protection which the community can provide.
--- Webster's dictionary
If one fails to pay his "Socialist" taxes, the government will take one's property, and not pay just compensation. That means there is no private property anymore - nor is there capitalism.
And you volunteered, by signing Form SS-5, application for an account and number with Socialist InSecurity.
If you didn't volunteer, ask them for the procedure to cancel the account and cease participation. (Sounds of "Hotel California" waft in the background).
I leave you with this thought - there is NO LAW compelling participation, nor is there any law punishing one who does not participate in national socialism. Yet 300 million Americans BELIEVE that they must have THE NUMBER before they can work in their own country.
That is evidence of a great victory for the propaganda ministry, a division of the Socialist States of America.
If one fails to pay his "Socialist" taxes, the government will take one's property, and not pay just compensation. That means there is no private property anymore - nor is there capitalism.
This is one of the most bizzare claims I've seen. Sadly, others have spouted it as well. I won't ask for an explanation, as I'm sure you'll simply repost the whole unintelligible mess all over again...and again...and again...
Just for shoots and grins, what were taxes called before 1935? Capitalist taxes?
Additionally, when someone's home in taken through emminent domain, he is indeed compensated for his property. If he doesn't own the home, as you claim, why are public funds being used to compensate someone for something he doesn't own?
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This is one of the most bizzare claims I've seen. Sadly, others have spouted it as well. I won't ask for an explanation, as I'm sure you'll simply repost the whole unintelligible mess all over again...and again...and again...
Just for shoots and grins, what were taxes called before 1935? Capitalist taxes?
Income tax, with the exception of wartimes, didn't even come into effect before 1913. Social Security tax started in 1935. Medicaid tax started in 1965 I think. This doesn't even get into other taxes established in the past 70 years:Capital Gains, Property, Intangible,State, Auto etc etc
We do in fact have a voluntary tax system, but many people misunderstand the word in this context. The IRS does not send you a bill telling you how much tax you owe. The grocery store does that. Every time you shop, it figures out your sales tax to the penny and then tells you to pay it on the spot. That is a compulsory system. With income taxes, YOU decide how much tax you owe, and then you send that idea off to the IRS to see if they agree. If they do, great. You're done. If they don't, they write and tell you why they don't and either tell you that you made a mistake or ask for additional information that explains your ideas. A lengthy process can ensue, but it goes on only to the point where the taxpayer agrees with the IRS. That is a voluntary system.
Income tax, with the exception of wartimes, didn't even come into effect before 1913. Social Security tax started in 1935. Medicaid tax started in 1965 I think. This doesn't even get into other taxes established in the past 70 years:Capital Gains, Property, Intangible,State, Auto etc etc
Lots of taxes. I agree. I don't like them either, but the presence of taxes does not mean there is no private property. Such an idea is lunacy.
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hmmm.....more taxes less prosperity.
Not true. Some of the greatest growth has come during periods of high taxation.
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