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the US federal government is the largest, most corrupt, and the greediest corporation in the entire world. that is FACT. glad you trust them.
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Originally Posted by TristansMommy
You expect the PRIVATE industry to fix it REally.. when all they care about is PROFIT. NOT healthcare or access to it. THAT is a joke..
The same types that sold this country up river to make a quick buck... I don't trust them AT ALL.. but I DO trust the government to make laws and create a system that allows for fair access to everyone.. NOT just those with big enough purse strings.
Alas.. the reason you don't trust the government is BECAUSE the government HAS been corrupted by the same people YOU expect ME to trust.. .. Yes.. government has to break away from being "bought" and when we can accomplish that then the government can be very effective in fixing the problems.
Atleats with the government I feel that I have a voice.. if I don't like what is going on.. I can reflect that in my votes for or against a candidate. With private entities in healthcare I am completely voiceless and helpless..
But alas... this subject was touch upon quite early in the thread.. and I believe eloquently by Harborlady. You might want to go back and read through the thread.
It is a right guaranteed in the Constitution...the right to LIFE, liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness....these are hardly attainable without affordable health care.
Anyone could twist that for their agenda.
I don't think allowing massive amounts of third world people with a different language and culture than me year after year fits my right to 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' but the government still allows it to happen.
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by provided, you mean that your kids are required to go or the state will come and take your children away. your world sounds scary. explain what UHC is. no one can ever explain that to me. does that mean they cured AIDS? because if we all get the same treatment, then magic johnson will have to wait behind the poor to get his AIDS treatments. yeah, that's gonna happen.
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I'm very well versed on the education topic as I have debated it before on many different threads.. but I won't get into it here because, again.. it's off topic. ....
But it's no surprise that someone who is against a UHC is also against education provided to all
How has "the government" destroyed health care? I never heard that one before!
The cost of healthcare started going up right about the time medicaid came into existence. I posted a link in an earlier post in this thread.
Post #57 has the link to an article.
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too much regulation. they also let comanies write 17 year patents on prescriptions. then the doctors pimp name brand medications and don't want to give you generics.
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How has "the government" destroyed health care? I never heard that one before!
by provided, you mean that your kids are required to go or the state will come and take your children away. your world sounds scary. explain what UHC is. no one can ever explain that to me. does that mean they cured AIDS? because if we all get the same treatment, then magic johnson will have to wait behind the poor to get his AIDS treatments. yeah, that's gonna happen.
If I have to explain what a UHC is than it's not worth debating with you.. because you obviously lack the neccesary information to have a debate.. because the ONLY thing you will put up on this thread is rhetoric and hyperbole.
Yes.. education is mandatory till a certain age.. that age is determined state to state.. and that is fine with me. And then that education that is mandated is provided for through taxes and government funding. .. also okay with me..
A History of Public Education In The United States (http://www.servintfree.net/~aidmn-ejournal/publications/2001-11/PublicEducationInTheUnitedStates.html - broken link)
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The national system of formal education in the United States developed in the 19th century. Jefferson was the first American leader to suggest creating a public school system. His ideas formed the basis of education systems developed in the 19th century
Our founding fathers saw the importance of a public education system, one that had access for ALL. And.. it is tantamount to child abuse to deprive a child of an education that will allow them to function in society and contribute.. they don't HAVE to go to public school.. they can get home schooled. As long as a child is getting an education wether at home in a home school curriculum or public or private school, they are meeting their legal obligation.
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REally.. when all they care about is PROFIT. NOT healthcare or access to it. THAT is a joke..
