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She'll never believe we are born gay even if there is scientific proof beyond doubt. Denial and ignorance are a powerful combo.
It's a choice to remain ignorant when there is so much information from reputable sources readily available on the net. It's also a choice to believe that all the experts must be lying, and millions of gay people must be lying when we say our orientation is not a choice.
But then again, some of these people believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and that a fellow called Noah had dinosaurs on board his little boat.
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In the meantime, i'm gonna life my life the way I want to, even knowing Janelle doesn't want me to. If i was the wife of that husband though, i'd keep a close eye on Janelle
*chuckle* Clearly the thought has entered her mind.
As for me, I've never even had thoughts of cheating on my partner of 10 years-perhaps because I am extremely happy in my relationship.
Once we start aborting fetuses simply on the basis of genetics, society as a whole will never be the same. The baby won't be smart enough, beautiful enough, straight enough etc etc...the human condition will change and i wouldn't look forward to the day.
Yeah, I agree, but I think the possibility for it exists.
Also, I hate to say it, but although most parents can accept that their son or daughter may have a hair color or eye color that isn't their first choice, I don't think it would be very easy for them to just allow their baby to develop into a homosexual, knowing that they could change it if they chose to. It might not even be entirely based on the parents' homophobia; they may simply feel like they're doing the child a favor.
If homosexuality continues to become more accepted, the chances of this happening will decrease, but I doubt the desire for a heterosexual child will go away.
As for me, I've never even had thoughts of cheating on my partner of 10 years-perhaps because I am extremely happy in my relationship.
well cheers to that and cheers to the gay people in this forum. Good people and very intelligent oh and that guy from Rome Georgia, his children are likely to have such an intelligent and loving man as a father. They will do well.
Ah, yeah, but I believe that sexual orientation is determined by hormonal levels in the mother's womb. A lot of research over the last several years points in that direction.
if that were the case, it would no longer be a matter of genetics, would it?
anyway, if you have a link, i'd be interested in checking it out.
for every older brother a man has, his chances of being gay increase by one third. Older sisters make no difference, and there's no corresponding effect for lesbians. A first-born son has about a 2 percent chance of being gay, and the numbers rise from there. The theory is it happens in the womb.
yet there are cases of twins where one is gay and one is not, so that throws a whole 'nother wrench in the works.
Here's a link to a fairly comprehensive list of studies and summaries (up to 2004) on sexual orientation from the Liberty Education website.
Is It a Choice? The Science of Sexual Orientation (http://www.libertyeducationforum.org/IsItaChoiceTheScienceofSexualOrientation.htm - broken link)
And here are just a few of the conclusions from the more recent studies in the last 5 years:
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Mustanski, B. S.; DuPree, M. G.; Nievergelt, C. M.; Bocklandt, S.; Schork, N. J.; Hamer, D. H. “A genomewide scan of male sexual orientation.” Human Genetics 116: 272-278, 2005
Mustanski concluded that: "There's a converging line of evidence between the hormonal studies, the genetic studies, and the neuroanatomical studies. My research has identified candidate genes within these new chromosomal regions that could link together all of these different findings”
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Swaab DF (2007) Sexual differentiation of the brain and behavior. Best Pract Res Clin Endocrinol Metab 21:431–444.
Current evidence indicates that sexual differentiation of the human brain occurs during fetal and neonatal development and programs our gender identity— our feeling of being male or female and our sexual orientation as hetero-, homo-, or bisexual. This sexual differentiation process is accompanied by many structural and functional brain differences among these groups.
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(2008) Brain scans have provided the most compelling evidence yet that being gay or straight is a biologically fixed trait.
The scans reveal that in gay people, key structures of the brain governing emotion, mood, anxiety and aggressiveness resemble those in straight people of the opposite sex.
yet there are cases of twins where one is gay and one is not, so that throws a whole 'nother wrench in the works.
The fact that there is a much higher chance of brother being gay if his twin is gay, points to there being a genetic factor, even if it's not the only factor.
But twins, even identical twins, are not the same genetically.
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oh and that guy from Rome Georgia, his children are likely to have such an intelligent and loving man as a father. They will do well.
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