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Old 04-20-2009, 08:43 PM
 
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Keep up the complaining and B.K. will move over seas too. That will be a cold burger and fries and a watered down Coke by time we get it.

I understand the concern. I too worked for $3.10 an hour in a hot kitchen when I was a kid. I sent myself to college and am now a highly taxed middle class wage earner. Keep going in school and you will get a break as soon as we convince our government to provide some incentive to keeping jobs in America.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:43 PM
 
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Now I know what you are all thinking. "Why didnt you go get another job?" I tried. Especially because of my age, a lot of people did not want to hire me. Nobody was really hiring.
reality check: you're in michigan. they probably have a three-inch-high stack of applications of people who would love to have your horrendously awful and unfair job.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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I know the voucher thing was awful. I can't believe the teachers union wouldn't let Obama allow the kids to finish their education. Not only wouldn't they allow that, they made him end it after this year. They had $8 billion in earmarks and they couldn't find the money to help poor kids. Very sad.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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Would be a LOT LESS call for unions if we paid a "living wage" in this country and had health care under a sort of national scheme. Employers will always abuse people in various ways, greed bing a human condition. There needs to be something in place to stop the abuses. Whether it's unions or government mandated solutions, there will be no labor peace until there are living wages / benefits / and protection from abuses.

People should read the book "Fast Food Nation" to get an idea of what a low opinion that industry has of both its employees and its customers. Those attitudes go all the way to the original McDonald brothers.
Mike, I love you.

You are always making such EXCELLENT points.

It is so true.

If there is to be no union, can we at least have regulations? Like maybe if you have an employee for 6 months, they deserve a .25 cent raise?

Something like that?


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Thank God we have unions that create a process like this. Not referring to you teach1234.

How To Fire An Incompetent Teacher
LOL. That is funny. I am dealing with an incompetent teacher right now too.

But see, I do believe they should have a union because sometimes if there is an angry student, they can make up so many lies and pay other students (Trust me-I heard this today in my class) to lie for them just to get this teacher fired.

But I do believe is there is enough proof and it is undeniable, then poof! Bye bye. Even the union should not be able to protect that.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Mike, I love you.

You are always making such EXCELLENT points.

It is so true.

If there is to be no union, can we at least have regulations? Like maybe if you have an employee for 6 months, they deserve a .25 cent raise?

Something like that?




LOL. That is funny. I am dealing with an incompetent teacher right now too.

But see, I do believe they should have a union because sometimes if there is an angry student, they can make up so many lies and pay other students (Trust me-I heard this today in my class) to lie for them just to get this teacher fired.

But I do believe is there is enough proof and it is undeniable, then poof! Bye bye. Even the union should not be able to protect that.
That is a very sensible approach, unfortunately the UFT in NY is so strong, the kids suffer so much it really contributes to people being turned off to unions.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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Hello all,

As you may know, I began work at the age of 15. The first place I was ever hired into was Burger King.

Let me tell you something. That company gets away with so much law breaking and crimes that it is not even funny. I have worked for four years. I started working at $5.50 an hour 5 years ago. I left there, four years later making $7.75. Oh, the raises were only because min. wage was raised up. I was given one raise when I demanded it because they were always understaffed and gave me manager duties even though I was NOT the manager.

Minors are to have breaks. Burger King never gave them. And also, in Michigan, if you are working more than 8 hours, you have to have 2 breaks and a lunch. Do you think I got lunch? Yeah, if they felt like giving to me. I had to stand on my feet for 8 hours straight doing things for them and they could not even give me a lunch.

I busted my a$$ for them. Slacked the fries, took care of customers, did the drive-thru (Which was more hell than all the other responsibilities COMBINED at Burger King), cleaned their floors, cleaned their grease, TRAINED new people-even though I was not a manager, cooked their food, counted their waste, took out their garbage and cleaned the dining room and restrooms and more.

I had only called off on them three times in four years. I came to work, rain or snow.

Yet, they never gave raises. Instead, they gave pay CUTS. And when I asked for a raise, they looked at me like I was stupid. And then would say "Oh! We made $50,000 today!" $50,000 is a LOT of sandwiches that I and other crew had to make.

Dont tell me that they cannot afford to pay better for an employee that does so much for them. And even then, fine. I am 20 and I go to college and live at home. There were people who were trying to make ends meet on this horrible wage. I remember a co worker who had a child and her husband had to get his foot amputated. Did they have health insurance? Of course not. Burger King did not offer it at affordable wage.

My Burger King got robbed a half a year ago. Did they have any security for the employees to defend themselves? No. Just fake cameras. The robber had a gun to my managers head and demanded the money. A tornado hit my Burger King (And you guys are not going to believe this) and they HAD NO EMERGENCY LIGHTS. It was pitch black. My manager expected all of us to go in the back and save the food from rotting since the tornado had knocked out the power. Hah! Dont tell me Burger King cannot afford to have an emergency pack with a FLASHLIGHT.

They told me to get onions and Burgers from another Burger King OFF THE CLOCK. They told me that since I was not working technically, I had to clock out while driving (gas was around 4 a gallon then) to get things for THEM!
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Fast Forward to now-

I have been working for Target. This is a BRAND NEW Target. I helped stock the shelves. Everyone here is very hardworking and wonderful. We get along very well and like each other.

I get a 100 percent on my speed score every week. My conversion (getting people to open up credit cards-which is hard in this economy) is higher than what they asked for. I am cross trained in all departments except one and the customers always compliments me to my managers.

I know several other employees who are good as well.

The raises we got? .10 cents. For doing everything we can..to HELP THEM make that $70,000 goal PER DAY....we get a .10 cent raise from making $7.40 an hour.

It is a CRIME that these companies make thousands upon thousands a day. Target pays crappy but at least they take care of us. They give us breaks and lunches on time and make sure we are doing good. But STILL!

Burger King needs some serious investigation.

They both need UNIONS to make sure these people who make $50,000-$70,000 a day don't pay their employees CRAP and treat them badly. In addition to that, they should make sure that each and every workplace is equipped in case there is an emergency.

Now I know what you are all thinking. "Why didnt you go get another job?" I tried. Especially because of my age, a lot of people did not want to hire me. Nobody was really hiring. I just finished my associate degree this month though.

I know a lot of Republicans on here say we need to work and work and work for our earnings but when is it enough? How do you expect Americans to get out of this cycle if they are getting paid like this? There is no doubt that they would end up on welfare and become a burden on taxpaying Americans.

I want to get ahead in life. But how do you all expect us too when we are getting paid around 5.95 an hour (after taxes) AND having to pay for car insurance, COLLEGE tuition, food, clothes and more? I remember several users on this forum making fun of 20 somethings still at home.

So tell me how you expect us to get ahead when we are being taken advantage off? This is exactly why we need labor unions. So then we wont be ripped to pieces and working for peanuts.
Its called paying you're dues, sounds like you have enough experience to run you're own Burger King now. Read the book "Daves way" and "Behind the Golden Arches", stop pissing and moaning and go throw you're own nuts up on the chopping block and get you're own Burger King and then you can pay you're employees top dollar and full health care benefits for their homosexual partners, paid vacations, bonuses, the whole maryann, then get back to us and let us know how that's working out for ya!! Oh yeah, and how much you have to charge for you're double whoppers !
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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nope. if I am unhappy with a situation, I change it. I don't whine and complain that there isn't someone to stick up for me.


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Really?

What would you be doing in this situation then?

You too would be stressed and upset. I promise you, crybaby.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:54 PM
 
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Keep up the complaining and B.K. will move over seas too. That will be a cold burger and fries and a watered down Coke by time we get it.

I understand the concern. I too worked for $3.10 an hour in a hot kitchen when I was a kid. I sent myself to college and am now a highly taxed middle class wage earner. Keep going in school and you will get a break as soon as we convince our government to provide some incentive to keeping jobs in America.
I am going to school and applied for my associates a couple days ago. I was very happy

Let BK move! Maybe USA might be healthier.

Anyways, thanks for your post. I got a chuckle out of it.

On the other hand, when did you go to college because I cannot imagine $3.10 an hour?

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reality check: you're in michigan. they probably have a three-inch-high stack of applications of people who would love to have your horrendously awful and unfair job.
Did you read anything I posted?

Reality check? Oh trust me. I know. I worked there for four years. Reality smacks you hard in the face!

I work at Target now where I said it is much better there. I am just talking about my exp from Burger King.

Please dont talk down to me.

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I know the voucher thing was awful. I can't believe the teachers union wouldn't let Obama allow the kids to finish their education. Not only wouldn't they allow that, they made him end it after this year. They had $8 billion in earmarks and they couldn't find the money to help poor kids. Very sad.
Not all unions are out there to destroy things. Unions do have a good purpose. Some I admit do take it out of hand. Like this union for example.

But I do believe they are needed from my exp.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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nope. if I am unhappy with a situation, I change it. I don't whine and complain that there isn't someone to stick up for me.
Soooo sorry that facts are whining to you.

So tell me how you would change this. I am curious.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:56 PM
 
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I know the voucher thing was awful. I can't believe the teachers union wouldn't let Obama allow the kids to finish their education. Not only wouldn't they allow that, they made him end it after this year. They had $8 billion in earmarks and they couldn't find the money to help poor kids. Very sad.
it certainly is. this paragraph sums it up well:

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Opponents of school choice for poor children have long claimed they'd support vouchers if there was evidence that they work. While running for President last year, Mr. Obama told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that if he saw more proof that they were successful, he would "not allow my predisposition to stand in the way of making sure that our kids can learn . . . You do what works for the kids." Except, apparently, when what works is opposed by unions.
yay, unions.
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