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That's because the OP doesn't contain a sentence that can possibly adhere to the brain of a living organism. Its author actually thinks John McCain was tortured by "terrorists" (!), and apparently doesn't know McCain is 100% against his goofy little rationalizations.
Of course, no one really addresses the concept of "blowback" caused by occupations and news of torture. No matter how classified a report is stated, word eventually leaks out.
So, the absurd hypothetical situation of "we may have saved 1,000 lives by waterboarding" (not provable btw) can be equally argued with "we may have lost 2,000 lives because of a new attack from a terrorist who switched to the dark side because his brother was tortured"
So, the absurd hypothetical situation of "we may have saved 1,000 lives by waterboarding" (not provable btw) can be equally argued with "we may have lost 2,000 lives because of a new attack from a terrorist who switched to the dark side because his brother was tortured"
Good point. Except that if that's his motivation, I'm not sure in what sense he can be classified as "on the dark side", at least any more than we can.
Furthermore, if neo-cons keep along this path of insanity in thinking that waterboarding is a-ok, they will notice Republicans consistently losing future elections because the paleo-conservatives and classical liberals like us will always vote "none of the above" or third party, and there are more than enough of us to "spoil" elections.
I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone for agreeing so adamantly with the libs on this one.
Christopher Hitchens used to think waterboarding was ok. Then, he experienced it. Immediately afterwards, he re-evaluated his position. 4 JAGs wrote a report that directly stated: "Waterboarding is inhumane, it is torture, and it is illegal."
Until someone can cite some credible information that counters this evidence from a NON-BIASED report (it can be from a left/right wing blog but the report must be verified as legitimate), it is merely your non-expert opinion and no judge would ever listen to it in a court of law.
yeah, what should be done is line 5 terrorists against the wall and start shooting the terrorists 1 by 1 until they start to talk.
yeah, what should be done is line 5 terrorists against the wall and start shooting the terrorists 1 by 1 until they start to talk.
sooner or later 1 will talk.
That's fine on the battlefield IMO if the soldiers know of an imminent threat.
However, I would not classify this as effective "off the cuff" considering you'd make his/her day if you shot them dead, considering where they think they're going.
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However, I'm not a saint. This is a more acceptable means of interrogation and can be altered to fit the terrorist profile. The Stasi, even though they were b---tard commies, were some of the most professional interrogators in the world and their former agents could teach our boys a thing or two.
It's been shown that torture not the best way to get facts to of some one, more than likely they will what you want to hear to get you to stop. We can't also go lining up people and shooting them because we capture them. I say this as an Army Vet, if we stoop to their level we become them. We need to interrogate pow's so we get intel that is correct rather than a lie, which could further jeopardize American lives.
Is somebody letting their kid use the computer unauthorized?
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