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Old 05-17-2009, 09:30 AM
 
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This whole abortion debate ignores a fact: There is philosophy and there is realpolitik. Philosophically, who could be in favor of a woman terminating a pregnancy? I think very few people could be happy with that happening.

Then there is reality: Abortion and termination of pregnancy has been with society since before the dawn of recorded history.

So abortion is going to happen and did so before Roe v. Wade. Anyone here remember that Frank Sinatra's mom had two convictions for performing illegal abortions? That stuff about coat hangers and illegal 'scrapes' was real life, scary and it happened.

And, abortion happens to be legal in these United States of America. At base, the president should work on making abortion safe and rare. And I have seen very little of stress in those areas by anti-abortion protesters.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:38 AM
 
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Until then, if you're a man against abortion, keep it in your pants, and use it only when the woman you're partnering is going to have your baby and raise it properly.
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No. I'll continue working with and donating to organizations that wish to change the laws. But thanks....

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Old 05-17-2009, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't understand why with so many of you people, everything is so black and white. Abortion isn't a black and white issue, you don't necessarily have to be 100% for or against it. I am against random whores using abortion over and over so that they don't have to be more careful with their choices, however I feel that if a young child makes a mistake, a mothers life is at danger, a woman was raped, etc they should have the ability to terminate the pregnancy. Complex issues are rarely a simple yes/no answer. I wish more people would realize this.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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I don't understand why with so many of you people, everything is so black and white. Abortion isn't a black and white issue, you don't necessarily have to be 100% for or against it. I am against random whores using abortion over and over so that they don't have to be more careful with their choices, however I feel that if a young child makes a mistake, a mothers life is at danger, a woman was raped, etc they should have the ability to terminate the pregnancy. Complex issues are rarely a simple yes/no answer. I wish more people would realize this.
So how would you legislate this moralistic POV? How would you as a jurist define and identify a random ***** who shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion, or let his girlfriend have one?
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My response was directed to the part of her post stating that I'm not entitled to an opinion.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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My response was directed to the part of her post stating that I'm not entitled to an opinion.
How do you feel about the other part of her post?
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Southern NH
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He will feel nothing. To liberals, the unborn child is a like a tumor. No problem removing it...
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I am against random whores using abortion over and over so that they don't have to be more careful with their choices.
1. Are you in favor of random whores having child after child? Random whores don't sound like women who would make the best mothers, but then, who knows?

2. Do you think random whores should be forced to give birth as a means for teaching them a lesson?

3. Do you think random whores should be punished for not making better choices by being forced to give birth?
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't understand why with so many of you people, everything is so black and white. Abortion isn't a black and white issue, you don't necessarily have to be 100% for or against it. I am against random whores using abortion over and over so that they don't have to be more careful with their choices, however I feel that if a young child makes a mistake, a mothers life is at danger, a woman was raped, etc they should have the ability to terminate the pregnancy. Complex issues are rarely a simple yes/no answer. I wish more people would realize this.
I agree.

I believe 100% in the right to an abortion in the case of rape or medical necessity.

I also believe in making contraceptives (and even sterilization) much more widely available - I could care less who sleeps with who; I'd simply prefer that they be responsible if a child is unwanted, thus dramatically reducing the chance of a pregnancy at all.

Let's also work on making adoption a more viable option.
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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How come you guys can type "whores" and it comes out?

ah! plural is okay?

whores *****

aha!
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