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Old 05-29-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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Yeah and that attitude is why things like this keep happening. Those in washignton know they can lie to us and whatever and we will just keep electing them.

Its time we start holding them accountable
Hmm.
When did washington lie to me about this topic?

Heck, even Bush didn't lie about appointing contributors, as far as I know.

What lie?

Look, if you want outrage you are going to have to do better than something that is common practice amongst presidents.

But with the everyday outrage manufactured on these forums constantly, any actual outrage-worthy news item will likely be less outrageous than it would have otherwise been (resistance to outrage).
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yeah, they should put veterinarians in there.
Do you ever post "constructive" replies ?
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:36 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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Hmm.
When did washington lie to me about this topic?

Heck, even Bush didn't lie about appointing contributors, as far as I know.

What lie?

Look, if you want outrage you are going to have to do better than something that is common practice amongst presidents.

But with the everyday outrage manufactured on these forums constantly, any actual outrage-worthy news item will likely be less outrageous than it would have otherwise been (resistance to outrage).
I am talking in general about lying to us. Lets not act like they dont just tell us what we want to hear to get elected.

It is really sad that you say you dont agree with it but its ok to allow it to happen.

I dont get people like you I really dont. Reminds me of people that like to complain something is happening but do nothing to prevent it from happening.

Shrugs what can one do.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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I am talking in general about lying to us. Lets not act like they dont just tell us what we want to hear to get elected.

It is really sad that you say you dont agree with it but its ok to allow it to happen.

I dont get people like you I really dont. Reminds me of people that like to complain something is happening but do nothing to prevent it from happening.

Shrugs what can one do.
Ever hear of picking your battles?
This is so far down the list of importance - but hey, everybody needs a cause.

I remind you of people that like to complain?
Hilarious.

I'm sorry, but you are the one complaining.
And are you doing anything to 'prevent it from happening'?
Or just complaining?
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:53 PM
 
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Maybe Obama could consider a "shake up" and appoint someone who is a far-left activist with "empathy", someone with a compelling story, maybe even from the ghetto. Good representation for America don't you think?
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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Do you consider the ongoing reign of ex-Goldman Sachs employees as heads of the Treasury outrageous ?
I wasn't entirely thrilled with Geithner, but I wasn't outraged, either. I have said on other threads that TARP and subsequent bail-out packages were examples of poor legislation. Rushed legislation is always poor legislation.

I wasn't outraged with Geithner because I realize that in terms of qualifications he had the education, experience and knowledge necessary for a Secretary of the Treasury. He was qualified, even though I don't agree with the strategies and policies he advocates. (And no, I wasn't thrilled with his tax problems, either, but I acknowledge that the tax code is practically designed to create almost unavoidable errors, and that his mistakes were mistakes made so commonly that the IRS regularly offers amnesty to people to correct those errors, so therefore Geithner's errors may not have been purposeful.)

I also recognize that Geithner's performance hasn't been stellar. But part of that is that for a number of reasons the Treasury Department has been understaffed and that Geithner has been spread thin, particularly during a period of financial crisis.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Then we are finally admitting that Obama would not qualify to be appointed Ambassador to anywhere, since he and Michelle have demonstrated that they are not sensitive to other countries' customs and practices?

LOL, not.

They may make mistakes, but you cannot prove they are insensitive.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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Maybe Obama could consider a "shake up" and appoint someone who is a far-left activist with "empathy", someone with a compelling story, maybe even from the ghetto. Good representation for America don't you think?

Me! Appoint me! I'm not a far-left activist, I'm more of a centrist, but I can espouse far-left ideas with the best of 'em. I'm empathetic. Big time empathy. My story may not be all that unusual, but I'm certain I could make it seem compelling. I'm not from the ghetto, but from the hills of Arkansas, so no stranger to poverty. Appoint me!
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:05 PM
 
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The two in the WH are most definitely NOT sensitive to the American people, those to whom you would THINK they represent. Making derogatory remarks about this great nation, apologizing for us "ugly Americans" all over the globe and bowing low to a desert rat are not my idea of "sensitivity", anything but.... That aside, they have made plenty of low-class gaffes toward world leaders, no need to enumerate the long list here, as everyone is no doubt aware.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I wasn't entirely thrilled with Geithner, but I wasn't outraged, either. I have said on other threads that TARP and subsequent bail-out packages were examples of poor legislation. Rushed legislation is always poor legislation.

I wasn't outraged with Geithner because I realize that in terms of qualifications he had the education, experience and knowledge necessary for a Secretary of the Treasury. He was qualified, even though I don't agree with the strategies and policies he advocates. (And no, I wasn't thrilled with his tax problems, either, but I acknowledge that the tax code is practically designed to create almost unavoidable errors, and that his mistakes were mistakes made so commonly that the IRS regularly offers amnesty to people to correct those errors, so therefore Geithner's errors may not have been purposeful.)

I also recognize that Geithner's performance hasn't been stellar. But part of that is that for a number of reasons the Treasury Department has been understaffed and that Geithner has been spread thin, particularly during a period of financial crisis.
I would have prefered to see someone like Volcker come back. His career background is mostly government work. What I don't like are these career switchers that hop back and forth from private to public sector.
Their first priorities may not always lie with the taxpayer.
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