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I think we should, after the initial cost think of how the system would help stop crime,foreign terrorists, and illegal immigration...also would slow down domestic terrorism. Surely would speed up our nation's transportation system...especially at airports.
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to link state driver's license and state ID cards into a national database? My grandmother never drove a car but she did have a state ID card. Such a database could be used for when someone is applying for a driver's license. They could enter that person's name and age and even SSN to see if it appears in another state as "license revoked" and not give that person a license to drive in their state. Or if the person has a good driving record in the other state then he/she must first turn in their old license before being handed the new one, the old one shredded and it's status entered in the other state's database. Many drivers, especially truck drivers, manage to get multiple licenses from different states just in case they get busted.
While I was pursuing my undergraduate studies, I did a paper on this subject and my conclusion was that it is a horrible idea. Basically, the national ID would allow all types of profiling, discrimination and also it would require the creation of a national database. A National ID program would be more characteristic of countries that have repressive or totalitarian regimes, it is a very unamerican concept in my opinion.
While I was pursuing my undergraduate studies, I did a paper on this subject and my conclusion was that it is a horrible idea. Basically, the national ID would allow all types of profiling, discrimination and also it would require the creation of a national database. A National ID program would be more characteristic of countries that have repressive or totalitarian regimes, it is a very unamerican concept in my opinion.
You made broad assumptions on the subject without facts to back up your statements. If "profiling and discrimination" would be the problem then where is the evidence that our current state DL or ID is also used for profiling and discrimination? Wouldn't such things be based upon a person's "physical appearance" regardless of their ID card?
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to link state driver's license and state ID cards into a national database? My grandmother never drove a car but she did have a state ID card. Such a database could be used for when someone is applying for a driver's license. They could enter that person's name and age and even SSN to see if it appears in another state as "license revoked" and not give that person a license to drive in their state. Or if the person has a good driving record in the other state then he/she must first turn in their old license before being handed the new one, the old one shredded and it's status entered in the other state's database. Many drivers, especially truck drivers, manage to get multiple licenses from different states just in case they get busted.
If the state I.D.'s were more comprehensive, than it would be easier and cheaper...but I think many states would not be very cooperative.
You made broad assumptions on the subject without facts to back up your statements. If "profiling and discrimination" would be the problem then where is the evidence that our current state DL or ID is also used for profiling and discrimination? Wouldn't such things be based upon a person's "physical appearance" regardless of their ID card?
I should have been more specific but here is one of the arguments that I used when I wrote the paper. I wrote this paper some years ago and I do not remember all the details but this is one specific point that was made against the implementation of a National ID program:
Some further argue that a national identification card system would increase the incidence of ethnic and racial profiling by law enforcement. For example, authorities might be more likely to stop people who look Arab to ask them for their card. Certain minorities would be increasingly subjected to having to constantly prove their citizenship or immigration status
I think we should, after the initial cost think of how the system would help stop crime,foreign terrorists, and illegal immigration...also would slow down domestic terrorism. Surely would speed up our nation's transportation system...especially at airports.
I'm all in favor of it and start with Obama's aunty ...maybe we can track her back...or is she hiding in the White House?
While I was pursuing my undergraduate studies, I did a paper on this subject and my conclusion was that it is a horrible idea. Basically, the national ID would allow all types of profiling, discrimination and also it would require the creation of a national database. A National ID program would be more characteristic of countries that have repressive or totalitarian regimes, it is a very unamerican concept in my opinion.
We are already profiled, think here and computers and health care......etc. And isn't a national I.D. a "glorified passport"? I believe many european countries have I.D.'s but I could be wrong?? If they do they are freer than our society has proven to be. I'll check on the subject and see what I can find.
Hey what an idea! Then we could set up checkpoints on all of the roads so they can check your "papers" to be sure they're all in order since we wouldn't want anyone to run around without their national ID's right?...
I'd suggest the uniforms for the checkpoint officers be black, maybe with knee length black leather boots?
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I think we should, after the initial cost think of how the system would help stop crime,foreign terrorists, and illegal immigration...also would slow down domestic terrorism. Surely would speed up our nation's transportation system...especially at airports.
Absolutely we need it. It needs to be tamper proof with a biometric feature to verify that you are who the ID says you are. I am all for it.
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