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Old 06-20-2009, 05:35 AM
 
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the health care reform as stated will put this country further into debt. the bailout put this country into debt. the completely unsuccessful auto bailout put this country into debt. the housing fall put this country into debt.
all of this debt load does NOTHING for the middle class and the poor and actually enslaves him.
why not discuss the other areas where he hurts the american worker (besides the massive debt load)
he is encouraging free trade, bad for us and good for other countries, just look at the import/export ratio.
he is doing nothing about controlling illegal immigration and forcing working americans to eat the associated costs.
he is doing nothing about the H1B visas, which allows more foreigners access to high paying american jobs.
he is doing nothing to address the root job problem in this country, but instead is saddling us with HUGE DEBT, while manufacturing leaves the country. THAT IS NOT GOOD!

oh, and one more, he chose the UAW over the pensions in the GM bailout, as americans have lost trillions of dollars of wealth in the stock market. (in the last 2 years)
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:37 AM
 
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the health care reform as stated will put this country further into debt. the bailout put this country into debt. the completely unsuccessful auto bailout put this country into debt. the housing fall put this country into debt.
all of this debt load does NOTHING for the middle class and the poor and actually enslaves him.
why not discuss the other areas where he hurts the american worker (besides the massive debt load)
he is encouraging free trade, bad for us and good for other countries, just look at the import/export ratio.
he is doing nothing about controlling illegal immigration and forcing working americans to eat the associated costs.
he is doing nothing about the H1B visas, which allows more foreigners access to high paying american jobs.
he is doing nothing to address the root job problem in this country, but instead is saddling us with HUGE DEBT, while manufacturing leaves the country. THAT IS NOT GOOD!
ROFLMAO!!!

You expect him to reverse 8 long years of systematic abuse of workers in a mere 5 months???

ROFLMAO!!!

Spoken like a true Ditto Head!!!
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Quick to post all the NEGATIVE FEEDBACK Obama receives right, but EVERYTIME Bush messed up I am sure NO THREADS were made then huh? Obama this Obama that.... if it wasn't for Mr. Genius from Texas we wouldn't be in this predicament!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, Bush screwed up royally. Obama doesn't seem to be much different, sadly.

But you won't hear me rootin' for his failure, even though I disagree with many of his policies and the lack of transparency that he promised.

We're all in this boat together as far as I am concerned, and I don't want it to sink!
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:52 AM
 
Location: FL/TX Coasts
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Poor Barack Hussein Obama in February was at or near 70% and his followers were jumping for joy. Now in only a few short months he has dropped like a total rock to todays 58%.

He has lost 12% points in such as short time and the other factor is disapproval rating was at 10% in February and now has quickly climbed to a high 33%.

People are beginning to see he is not up to the job and his total mishandling of our economy, the healthcare scam, the appeasing to our enemies, his huge job losses, record number of bankruptcies and foreclosures are beginning to take its toll on him.

There is not one single issue he has handled correctly, even with massive spending of money we do not have he still has not fixed a damn thing and has actually made things a lot worse with his poor decisions.

70% down to 58% in 3 months
, not to good!

Disapproval rating

10% climbs all the way up to 33%
. Cannot say we did not tell you all so.

Hell, Joe the Plumber could do a better job running the country!!

And wait on more to come from Iran, NK and Israel. His ratings will take even more of a dive once he screws all those things up.

Way to go Obama, your going down hill faster then even I thought!

Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
You sounds like a proud American!
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Gallup uses a political identification of at least 10%+ in the democrats favor. The old "putting the finger on the scale" kind of polling.

How much you want to bet they do another poll in the very near future and things look rosy again.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:40 AM
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I disagree. Socialism is based on greed. It is the greed of pirates seeking to despoil property owners. Socialists are pirates, clothed in the bafflegab of flowery phrases.

By the way, the USA has been socialist since 1935, so don't blame capitalism for the griefs that plague the nation today.
Capitalism
  • The richest 10% of the population holds 85% of the worlds assets
  • The bottom 50% of the population holds less than 1% of the worlds assets
Only with Capitalism do you see perverse companies like AIG declare bankruptcy at the same time they issue hundreds of millions of dollars in executive bonuses. The rich can never get enough and will always be driven by more profit and always at the expense of the poor people (and the environment). This is exactly what socialism tries to reign in.

Poor people are tricked into believing that there is a 'American Dream' but their wages are so low that it does nothing but to hold them in place and keep them working two jobs just to keep their heads above water.

In Capitalism the market determines prices and the greatest rewards come from taking the biggest risks. This is what led Wall Street straight into the toilet over the last two years. Now I have no doubt that they will rebound because these peaks and valleys have proven to be cyclical. However, that's the problem. The peaks are way too high and the valleys are way too low. We are either living in a time where families have huge houses, two SUVs and pay for expensive vacations or we are living in times of double digit unemployment where families can't even afford to pay for their homes or feed their families.

Socialism is about trying to bring this to a medium. Lower peaks and higher valleys while also trying to create a wider middle class. Especially though trying to bring the 'lower' classes up even if it is at the expense of the 'upper' class.

In Capitalism, society is ruled by money but in Socialism society is ruled by the people and that really where you'll get freedom for everyone. A mix of capitalism and socialism is what we should be striving for and not just purely one or the other.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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Good thing that he already won the election!
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Gallup uses a political identification of at least 10%+ in the democrats favor. The old "putting the finger on the scale" kind of polling.

How much you want to bet they do another poll in the very near future and things look rosy again.
Proof?
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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ROFLMAO!!!

You expect him to reverse 8 long years of systematic abuse of workers in a mere 5 months???

ROFLMAO!!!

Spoken like a true Ditto Head!!!
i would like you to tell me where he has addressed ANY of those issues. i would at least expect him to start on something!
by the way, he was in CONGRESS, MAKING POLICY, since january 1, 2005 so somebody (besides me) needs to work on their math skills. what legislation did he introduce? you might want to take a look at senate.gov.

i see he did also cosponsor legislation to forgive the world's debt, which also does not benefit ONE AMERICAN WORKER.
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Old 06-20-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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This forum is Deja vu... These threads are identical to what was said about Clinton.
This website wasnt created until 2003, I think your lying again
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