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Old 07-07-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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You missed the graphs of the planet's temperature?
You mean this one?

DailyTech - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

"Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously."
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:54 PM
 
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You mean this one?

DailyTech - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling

"Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile -- the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously."

But don't you know?!?! Global warming causes global cooling.

A little lengthy, but all the leading authorities on global warming refer to these guys for the models.

http://nzclimatescience.net/index.ph...=483&Itemid=32
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The author has a BS in physics. That's it. All his advanced degree(s) are in the field of economics. He in fact works in the economic department at the EPA. He has done no advanced physics work, is not a graduate with an environmental science degree and certainly is not a climatologist.
there are two authors; the second is an environmental scientist with a ph.d in physics.

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Further, a lot of the work shown in the report was taken from other sources and in fact not his own work - which is one of the big reasons behind its 'suppression'.
link please. they were never commissioned to conduct independent research.

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While a degree in physics makes him capable of understanding a certain amount of the science his report is and would be a bit like someone with a BS in physics telling those with advanced degrees in the biosciences that they are wrong.
how about the one with the doctorate in physics? ya think he just might be able to comprehend what he's dealing with?

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Lastly, his so-called findings were debunked by people with a much higher understanding of things than him, some time ago and long before his 'report'.
link please.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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Following allegations that the EPA "suppressed" an internal document that was skeptical of climate change, several Fox News figures have advanced the document's false claim -- previously repeated by CBS -- that, in Fox News host Steve Doocy's words, "for the last 11 years, temperatures had been dropping." In fact, Doocy's claim simply is not true.

Fox News runs with global temperature decline falsehood | Media Matters for America
Maybe I missed it in your link - where is the link to the proof that what they reported was not true?
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: here
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Following allegations that the EPA "suppressed" an internal document that was skeptical of climate change, several Fox News figures have advanced the document's false claim -- previously repeated by CBS -- that, in Fox News host Steve Doocy's words, "for the last 11 years, temperatures had been dropping." In fact, Doocy's claim simply is not true.

Fox News runs with global temperature decline falsehood | Media Matters for America
I didn't read your links, but I heard something about this. Anyone can write anything they want. Doesn't make it true. That goes for the guy that wrote it, and for FOX.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Charleston, WV
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because global temp increases do not follow a straight line.
Tell that to Al Gore. He used the hockey stick theory in his infamous movie which is the proof of GW for thousands of Americans.

World Climate Report » Arctic Sea-Ice: Another Hockey Stick?
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2328
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1511 and many other sites on the web

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This figure, labeled as “Sea-ice Extent: Northern Hemisphere†was presented by Al Gore in the book version of his science (fiction) movie An Inconvenient Truth. But is this depiction of the Arctic sea ice extent over the course of the 20th century even close to reality?
Probably not.
World Climate Report
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I love that graph. It puts it into perspective.

See those bars are the far right? See how it's been cooler for a few years at the very very end?

This is what many wingnuts base their uneducated arguments on as proof GW does not exist....because global temp increases do not follow a straight line. Therefore they are right and 95% of Climatologist who study GW are wrong.......LOL
You have links to back up your accusations ?
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Maybe I missed it in your link - where is the link to the proof that what they reported was not true?
Al Gore said it wasn't true. That should be enough for most Americans.
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:31 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Wink Fox News runs with global temperature decline falsehood

It's Fox News...

"Hey, it got cold last night. Global warming's a fraud!"



It's like they're proud of their ignorance.

Last edited by skoro; 07-07-2009 at 05:00 PM..
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Following allegations that the EPA "suppressed" an internal document that was skeptical of climate change, several Fox News figures have advanced the document's false claim -- previously repeated by CBS -- that, in Fox News host Steve Doocy's words, "for the last 11 years, temperatures had been dropping." In fact, Doocy's claim simply is not true.

Fox News runs with global temperature decline falsehood | Media Matters for America
So CBS runs it first but fox gets blamed.
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